Show Discussion: One Hundred and Eighty

By | September 15, 2015

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Join Davina McCall and Freddie Flintoff as professional darts players play with amateurs to help them win cash prizes.

Will there be enough here to sustain an hour? We shall see. It looks like there are different sorts of dartboards and targets though.

23 thoughts on “Show Discussion: One Hundred and Eighty

  1. SquaredEyes

    You should try to get a screener on “Kalmte Kan U Redden” from Belgium public broadcaster Een, aired last Sunday.

    Perfect mix of the heartbeat principle (the lower your beat – green/orange/red) decides the points you get, while there is also a strategic play, the last one to buzz in multiplies his points with the highest multiplier: three players left, buzzer 1 gets 1 multiplier times his/her rate, buzzer 2 gets 2 multiplier times his/her rate, third person gets 3 times the rate. Wrong answer, points for the opponents.

    Trivia like questions, very fun and decently produced.

    http://www.panenka.tv/productie/kalmte-kan-u-redden

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  2. SquaredEyes

    The final is especially quite tricky and difficult – you’ll need to answer two questions at the same time, having only 100 seconds to get 10 double answers right. One question is being asked by the host, the other – a different question and different answer – is on the screen. Answer both correct, do that 10 times within time and you win 10,000 EUR.

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  3. David

    Well if UK Ninja Warrior follows the US version, you’ll get a winner in 2022- someone got through all four stages last night for the first time (in fact two did) in seven seasons.

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    1. Alex

      It just shows how hilariously punitive the Second Stage time limit was here. The American version had two (and a half, the Salmon Ladder was doubled up) obstacles added on, but had a whole 75 extra seconds to play with.

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  4. Simon F

    One Hundred and Eighty also on Sky Sports 1 as well as Sky One tonight which should help its viewing figures.

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      1. Brekkie

        On tomorrow too. ITV using Bear Grylls to try and hide the fact they’ve not got live football

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  5. Andrew Hain

    Now that the first episode has officially aired, it’s time for the complete format rundown!

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    1. Simon F

      Wasn’t sure if you were watching Andrew. At least with 2 format rundowns, you might cover some points I missed.

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      1. Andrew Hain

        No worries, but whenever I ask for the complete format rundown of these shows, I usually get the answer from Andrew ‘Kesh’ Sullivan and he is the best.

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        1. Andrew 'Kesh' Sullivan

          I don’t have Sky (I got rid of it a few years ago to switch to Freesat, a subscription-free alternative), so that’s why I wasn’t able to give a run-down for this one

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  6. Brekkie

    Well it’s not Bullseye is it!

    On the whole though a decent enough format and the balance just about right between knowledge and darts. Actually liked the format of most the rounds apart from Round 2 – maybe I wasn’t paying full attention but it didn’t make much sense to me.

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  7. Simon F

    One Hundred and Eighty then.

    Not terrible but whoever came up with the format has made quite a big error in my eyes.

    2 professional darts players team up with 2 dart-playing members of the public. Both contestants have 2 other people with them to help take part in the quiz parts of the show.

    Before the contestants are introduced, 2 professionals team up to hit as many doubles as they can in a specified amount of time (think it was 2 minutes). They have to start with double 1 then double 2. Each hit double contributes £1,000 to the jackpot played for at the end of the show. No further additions made to this during the show.

    Show consists of 6 rounds worth 10 points each.
    Rounds 1,3,5 are quiz/darts rounds for the contestants.
    Rounds 2,4,6 are standard 501 legs for the professionals (with any 180 giving their contestant an instant £500)

    Not sure if the contestant rounds will be the same each week but this week they were:

    Round 1
    Board has 20 circular targets for each contestant, lined up vertically in an alternating diagonal pattern. First we have a quiz round. Correct answer lights up a target for your team, incorrect answer lights up a target for your opponent.
    After a set amount of time, each player has a set amount of time (sorry didn’t note these down) to hit as many of the remaining targets with a dart. Unlimited amount of darts (they have loads to use rather than having to retrieve them). Most lit targets wins.

    Round 3
    There are 4 triangular shaped targets on the board worth 30,50,80 and 100 points (small targets as points increase).
    Teams take turns answering questions. First to 180 points wins round. Each correct answer lights up one of the targets. They can keep answering questions but can bank points at any time and have I presume 3 darts to hit target (everyone hit target in 1 dart so not sure on this). Incorrect answer hands control of board over to other team (obviously team going first have advantage).

    Round 5 (Stop the clock
    Teams are against the clock to answer 5 questions as quickly as possible. The other darts-playing contestant then has that amount of time to hit as many circular targets on a circular board as possible.
    Most targets wins.

    So we’ve had 6 rounds each worth 10 points each.

    Round 7
    Standard doubles leg to 501 with professional and contestant taking alternate turns (again not sure how they said who goes first). Any points won in rounds 1-6 are taking off the 501 total to start with.

    First team to 501 goes through to final.

    Final
    We have a round board with larger targets on outside and smaller targets on inside – each worth increasing amounts up to jackpot. In this show jackpot was £13,000 and amounts were £325, £650, £1300, £2600, £3900, £5200, £6500, £13000 (I think)
    2 minutes on clock – professional has to hit as many inner targets to light up the amounts (contestant can stop them at any time). This time players only have 3 darts in their hand so have to retrieve them after each throw. Player then has remaining time to hit as many smaller targets as they can (no gamble, the highest target they hit is what they win).

    Quite a fun show, Davina is her usual chirpy self. Commentary is done by Freddy Flintoff and Rod Studd (Sky darts/rugby league commentator) who are both good.

    Only problem I have is that the first 40 minutes of the show seem flawed. Even if a team wins all 6 rounds, all it gets them is at best a 60 points start (1 dart).

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    1. Andrew Hain

      In the round where they set the jackpot for that night’s episode, if they get all 20 doubles within 90 seconds, does the round end meaning the jackpot can be worth up to £20,000 or do they start again at double 1 and keep going until time runs out?

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    2. Karen

      I bowed out before the final because I felt the show was moving way too slowly but I’m sad to have my fears confirmed that the first 6 rounds are basically earning an irrelevant advantage for the decider. Basically to me it felt like a decent idea with some good round ideas, but it doesn’t need to be an hour.

      As for the jackpot, I feel it is possible to hit £20k in the 90 seconds since the players got it up to £5k in about 15 seconds.

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      1. Simon F

        Why not have 10 points being worth an extra dart in the decider? Keep the order of who throws first but if say you win 40-20 in the first 6 rounds and are throwing second, then you get 2 darts to start the decider? If you are throwing first with a 40-20 points advantage from first 6 rounds, you get 5 darts in your first turn.

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    3. Ali B

      Only just seen this so I’m too late really but the team with the most points also gets the darts in the final leg ie they throw first. This is a big advantage; similar to a service game in tennis. You’d generally be expected to win the game if you start first.

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  8. Brig Bother Post author

    I think this gets quite a lot right actually although I’m not sure it starts off all that well – the filmed introductions are a bit much (it’s quite funny how they get a minute each but their quiz teammates get a brief ‘hello’) but I think getting amateur players who are basically quite good is a masterstroke because it made the target throwing bits against the clock legitimately exciting when I was expecting it to be fairly awful.

    I’m intrigued by the set-up, presumably that’s a polystyrene board they put up for each round with graphics projected onto it?

    I would agree that the forty minute build up for negligible final round advantage is an issue in terms of formatting, but seeing as the show is a celebration of darts and darts culture I’m not sure many people are going to be greatly bothered. It’s not ideal but I think it gets away with it given the broader theme. I would prefer a better idea but it didn’t destroy my enjoyment.

    It’s a shame there’s no music bed for the timed bits, did they up the thud during the opening jackpot round? I like the thud.

    The end game was terrific. It has skill, it has excitement, it has a decision.

    The most enjoyable thing about the first episode was Phil Taylor and Adrian Lewis apparently playing darts like you would down the pub going down to trying to hit double one. Great stuff.

    I can’t say I’ll be watching every episode but it is the sort of show I can find myself sticking with when I’m looking for something to watch. They’ve done well to differentiate it from Bullseye.

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