WIDM ’18

Get your Molboekjes ready, Wie is De Mol? returns on January 6th for another run of celebrity sabotage hijinks and it will have to do great things if it’s to match last year’s hugely entertaining series. Ten Dutch celebrities are off to Georgia to complete challenges set by Art Rooijakkers to earn money for a pot which the winner will take home, but one of the ten is a secret saboteur. The winner is not the person who does best in the challenges, but the person who best works out who the Mole is and remembers everything they’ve done.

As usual, we ask our international friends not to spoil episodes until the brilliant Marieke has put up the English subtitled eps. The following links will take you straight to the relevant parts of the discussion.

Let’s meet the contestants, from left to right:

  • Writer and philosopher Stine Jensen
  • Comedian Emilio Guzman
  • NOS Journaal presenter Simone Weimans
  • BNNVARA presenter Jan Versteegh
  • Fashion designer Olcay Gulsen
  • Tears & Marble band member Bella Hay
  • Fokke and Sukke (comic characters) draftsman Jean-Marc van Tol
  • Pianist and singer Ruben Hein
  • Actress Loes Haverkort
  • AVROTROS presenter Ron Boszhard

Happy Mol hunting!

272 thoughts on “WIDM ’18

  1. Daniel Peake

    The Suspect List will also return this year! Each week you play along, putting the candidates in order of who you think the Mole is, the higher up your list the better. More details nearer the time!

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  2. Andrew, the Yank

    I’m going to try to keep up with this for once and participate in the Suspect List.

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  3. Matt Clemson

    Well, I’ve made it through 2016, so I might just be able to get through 2017 and the first episode of 2018 in time to get a Suspect List entry in, we’ll see; looking forward – if I can pull it off – to actually watching the programme at broadcast rate!

    While catching up with what was said in the BB thread on 2016, I noticed a couple of people asking if 2014 was up anywhere else; it’d been hit with copyright strikes, and without TDS there wasn’t an upload to another source. At some point last year I figured out a way to resurrect them, after a fashion; even if a YouTube video is hit with a copyright strike, it’s still possible to extract the softsubs from it, and I could combine those softsubs with a fresh grab from the Avro website; you still need to tweak sync a little (easy enough to do, since you can use the episode title as an anchor point), but it works fine.

    Not sure what to actually *do* with all this! There’s enough information there for someone to put together their own viewing of 2014 (and I can probably fill in a couple of gaps with a bit of work to remind myself of how precisely I did the extraction!), but I do have all the raw files – although I’m not entirely comfortable with the idea of redistributing TDS’s work without her permission.

    Is there still interest in 2014, is it worth me throwing together a more detailed writeup of how to put the bits together?

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  4. Brig Bother Post author

    Well that was a cracker of an opener, just one challenge, but really surprising, multilayered and clever. Laughed like an idiot at the reasoning behind the safe being at M18.

    That first elimination was *brutal*. When Art suggested there was going to be a test after the first assignment I assumed it would be some sort of ‘not really going home’ test, then I noticed what the time was. They all seemed so excited to be doing The Mole for real only for one to have the rug pulled under them before the experience started properly.

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    1. Stephen

      Agreed on the elimination totally thought it was gonna be a not really going home type of situation

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  5. Steve

    Leaving a bit more spoiler room just in case.

    So when I heard this season was going to be in Georgia, I thought to myself, “Oh, it’d be funny if they sent half the group to the US state of Georgia instead of the country to see how long it takes for them to figure it out.” I was joking, but somehow not far off!

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  6. Greg

    Excellent opener. I already have a strong suspect but im guessing most of you will be thinking along the same lines as it was quite blatant, or maybe it was moling but for now that is the only suspect i have so will be sticking with it for the time being.

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    1. Brig Bother Post author

      I haven’t thought about it too deeply but suspect it’s one of the four who a) opened the safe and b) found jokers rather than cash.

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    2. Jared

      I’ll take a guess: Jan? The only suspicious action that felt incredibly blatant to me in this episode was when he called Art “to get the password to the safe” even though he and Jean-Marc figured out the Tbilisi clue early on.

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  7. Daniel Peake

    Great start to the series – a wow moment upon realising where they all were!

    Suspect list will be incoming tomorrow… success!

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  8. Dale

    That was such a crazy opening for the show. I honestly have no idea who to suspect at the moment. I would think the mole would use this chaos to blend in as much as possible. There is no risk in pairs because if your partner went home any evidence left with them. Loes is slightly on my radar because her reaction seemed so unnatural during the execution. But my initial gut was for Jan or Jean-Marc as well.

    The preview for the next episode threw me for a loop at the mention of two traitors and double murder. It makes me think that we either have two moles or a double elimination coming or something even crazier. I think they are definitely not playing around this series after that opening that is for sure.

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  9. John R

    First time I’ve watched, great subtitles – just need to invent some nicknames for the actual contestants now to help me remember them…

    Nice to see they get to use Surface Pros these days rather than a Windows 98 laptop!

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  10. Daniel Peake

    The Suspect List is BACK! Can you spot The Mole better than anyone else? Time to prove it in our little playalong competition!

    Each week, simply put the suspects in order from most likely to be the Mole to least likely to be the Mole.

    The least-Moley person at the bottom of the list is worth 0 points, the next up is worth 1 point, then 2 points and so-on, the your Prime Suspect at the top of the list is always worth 10 points regardless of number of candidates in the list.
    There is also a bonus execution-style question each week worth 3 points which can make or break the winner! It certainly has in the past!

    THIS YEAR – you have a JOKER (Pronounced “yoker” of course). It doubles your score for the week you play it. You may use it once only (if you accidentally use it more than once I’ll only count the first time you play it). Will you play it early when there’s more scores you could potentially double? Or will you wait until there’s fewer candidates so you’re more sure of who it is? You decide!

    Here’s the link to play for Week 1:
    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSez81dA-eAp4DyVO-B2pzFEouG9ABt8RxSInyOh-qkVC94SNQ/viewform?usp=sf_link

    Success!
    — Dan Peake

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      1. David B

        My yellow dodecahedron is indeed being gainfully employed once more.

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  11. Aiden

    Really liked the opening challenge & this cast has a lot of interesting characters 🙂 possible spoilers below!!

    I have a few suspicions but the obvious strategy for the mole here would be the phone calls to Art to lower the pot. On that line of thinking, in the moles shoes they could go to a location which contained the 2000 euro knowing that would easily be taken away due to the other contestants calling Art for clues, and look like the heroes of the group by bringing in money rather then jokers

    Other red flags-
    Jan – immediately suggested to his team mate to not share information to other teams which would mean the others teams would be more likely to call Art thus lowering the pot. Also later in the episode called Art for the passcode knowing full well it would not be revealed and would only reveal information they already knew. Also I do find it strange they called for this without seeing the safe first and trying to guess the passcode

    Simone – I do find it very strange that she saw the ‘M18’ clue because personally I thought that was very tricky to work out.. She is either very observant or already knew that was the answer from being the mole and seeing as they had got jokers instead of money, thought she would be the hero to bella and go to the safe knowing they had no cash to bank

    Shine/ emilio – hung up when other teams asked for information, however I personally think from the editing of the show its abit too obvious for that to be a mole action

    Top suspects – Olcay & Rubén
    Ruled out – Jean Marie

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  12. TVs Michael Harmstone

    The moment where you realise that they’re not even in the same country and that we have a challenge that’s taking place over five different countries is just absolutely insane. This is maybe the most shocked I’ve ever been for a Mole episode ever. Holy cow.

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    1. Anthony Williams off of BBC's The Code

      Wow! I’m thinking “where in Eastern Europe are they and why haven’t they said yet?” for ages then Boom!

      Are they really sending Ron home without meeting everyone? Where were the titles shot??

      I spotted something which is either a red herring and I’m into tunnelvisie mode early on or is very significant…hmmm

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      1. Andrew, the Yank

        I also saw something that is either a clue or a red herring!

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  13. Clicky

    That opening was effing crazy O_O. I loved it considering I was a bit bored last season (despite being a diehard fan, the past two seasons I think, overall, bored me a bit). But this opening defintely made up for it.

    The scenario could have put duos in a unique scenario if they thought they were the only team that lost. You could have turned to your partner and said “hey I’ll put my quiz on this half the players, you put them on the other half” and if the other person got executed you could have eliminated half the suspects.

    Can’t wait to see what happens next ^_^.

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  14. Andrew, the Yank

    I caught a glimpse of a couple comments, so the twist of them being in different countries was spoiled, alas, but it was still an effective device even knowing it going in.

    That episode was great, albeit that my first main suspect got eliminated. Of course. I have some other ideas though, and copious notes. I’m probably going to try to rewatch it later this week to try to refine my guesses for The Suspect List.

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    1. Nico W.

      Funnily enough he was my least probable Mol and that annoys the hell out of me. I love having a non-Mol throughout to put in last place in Dan’s game – but it never works, they always get eliminated as soon as I am sure about them!

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      1. Clicky

        I also thought he was least probable Mole. He seemed lost/confused the whole time, didn’t seem very gung-ho about the game.

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  15. David

    I’m going with Olcay. It seemed very odd that she tried to brush so quickly over the other pair asking where in Kiev they were, and then it was very noticeable that she was the only one who didn’t visibly react to the trick.

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    1. Clicky

      I concur with you while watching the episode… I also noticed instead of reacting to things herself, she tended to look to her partner and observe their reaction instead.

      Although in retrospect, The Mole would know they need to act shocked and surprised. So although initially I was 100% Olcay is the Mole, I now think that’d be silly. I specifically went over all the reactions again before making my suspect list. I noticed some were very loud with their shock, and some were literally in shock with a blank expression taking in the information. I now suspect The Mole is probably someone who gave a very vocal reaction to the revelation.

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  16. Andrew, the Yank

    I’ve had a weird, hectic week and was hoping to rewatch the first episode tonight and do my Suspect List entry. Instead I went from work to dinner with colleagues, to hanging out at a coworker’s house with visiting friends until well after midnight. I got as far as watching about 20 minutes of the episode and gave in and put in my choices, based on notes I took the first time I watched it (which in fairness, included frequently pausing and going back).

    But it’s 2am and I got my entry in and now I can sleep.

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    1. Anthony Williams off of BBC's The Code & Fifteen to One

      Another great episode! I knew Ron would be back but I thought he’d have a bigger part to play. What did everyone think of the decision not to go to him? It seems crazy to me that you’d turn down a definite advantage for a potential 2000 for the pot.

      Can anyone read Gerogian? The finish line sign was shown a lot and a quick Google translate tells me it did not say “Finish” it feels like that was a clue.

      I’m not doing the suspect list because I forgot in week 1 which clearly doesn’t bode well. I had Jean Marc at the top but it’s clear now his behaviour was down to other issues.

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      1. Anthony Williams off of BBC's The Code & Fifteen to One

        Turns out is translated to ‘In the finish’ so not a clue. Garrett!

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        1. Brig Bother Post author

          Sidenote: Anthony if you can avoid using the apostrophe and ampersand in your name I won’t need to approve your posts every time (it’ll only be a thing for the first one, when I’ve approved you once it’ll recognise you automatically in future – although I’m about to go out so next one might be a little while).

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    2. Brandon

      At 11:55 there is some music pinched from Skyfall, from near the start of the film. I’m surprised no one else noticed this.

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  17. Tantusar

    Shame about Jean Marc. He really did seem flustered. Hope he had a good night’s sleep soon after.

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  18. Greg

    Wow just wow as episode 2.

    Fantastic games, and the shock twist to the theatre game what WIDM is all about. Such a weird ending though something is telling me that ending is not quite right.

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  19. John R

    There was a lot of ‘colour’ in Episode 2, which is probably throwing me as I was quite sure there must be a visual clue in there!

    For example Bella having that bright yellow jacket (though she still has it on next week by the looks) then a couple of contestants having the same striped shirt…then in the JCB task one of the contestants had the bright green one – argh!

    Also during the test in the library one of the contestants (sorry still not familiar with all the names!) mentioned books…

    I still remember The Mole UK Series 1 where the ‘Buxton Water’ provided during the elimination was actually a clue!

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    1. Nico W.

      I was also quite sure that I saw a colour hint, but after some research I’m almost certain it was no hint…
      And I’m really sad about Jean-Marc leaving. He was one of my two favourites to win (just because he was weirdly nice, not because he was a good player or anything), but reasons like he seemed to hint at always make me a bit sad myself. He seemed great!

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  20. David

    Have the ever gone this long with the pot in the negatives? Either some of the later assignments are gonna have to have big money possible, or the winner may end up owing the show money…

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  21. Andrew, the Yank

    Oh my god, the shot when the group that’s just been told what the next market person looks like, but they decide to go back to Art and then the camera just lingers and you see that the guy was right behind them the whole time is just… *chef kiss* This show is so good.

    I knew as soon as I heard what the challenge was that it would be an utter mess, and somehow it was exponentially worse than I expected. That was hilarious. Also there were parts of the challenge where, especially with subtitles, it got hard to tell who was saying what. Kind of tricky when trying to figure out who’s being suspicious!

    Damn, Art is VERY handsome in black tie. Yum. Erm, I digress.

    This theater challenge is very fun.

    ALSO YESSS when they started showing a mysterious person walking the halls and then the players reacted in shock to a new text, I immediately went, “Is it Ron?!” I had been sort of suspecting he might get another chance ala the guy eliminated first in Belgian Mole last year, I feel so vindicated that I suspected correctly AND immediately guessed.

    … HOW DID THEY MESS THAT UP? God. Now I have to go back and rewatch it to figure out where the mistakes were made. Grumble grumble.

    Aw, poor Ron. 🙁

    .. and poor Jean-Marc! I’m being coy about my suspicions but I guess I can say he was my number one suspect in the Suspect List week 1. So that’s also a blow to me. But we’ll see from here, I’m starting to have some better suspicions.

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  22. Daniel Peake

    Here’s Week 2 of the Suspect List. 8 Mole candidates remain – who will you put at the top of the Suspect List? Will you play your joker?

    25 people played last week and here’s the result of the bonus question.
    Did The Mole take an execution test this week?
    Yes – 28%
    No – 72%

    I won’t reveal any details, but I will say at least one person has used their joker this week.

    Even if you didn’t take part last week (Anthony) there’s still (approximately) 90% of the points left to go, so it’s well worth joining in from week 2. Last year several people came mid-table despite only playing for 3 weeks.

    Link to Suspect List Week 2 here: https://goo.gl/forms/Ml3nx4cMcWc4vlpD3

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  23. Andrew, the Yank

    A question: this is actually my first time watching this version of the show, somehow (I know I’ve been missing out and hope to go back and rewatch older seasons – any recommendations?), so how do jokers work in this version exactly?

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  24. Gwilym

    My hope is that Ron is supposed to be de Mol, and the remainder of the series will be the producers trying ever more blatant ways to get him back into the show.

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    1. Brig Bother Post author

      That would be *hilarious*.

      Eliminating The Mole and then bringing them back is not without precidence, Australia have done it.

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    2. Clicky

      After attempting to bring him back, I also thought Ron was going to be The Mole O_O. And was shocked nobody went to save him.

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      1. Chris M. Dickson

        I have no clue who the Mole is, hence why I’m not even trying a die roll on the Suspect List, but in response to the other question you’ll all have after watching this episode: it looks like a tandem paraglide costs roughly £150 in the UK.

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  25. Daniel Peake

    Hmm. Found it hard to get a read on quite a few suspects this week, especially in the middle task…! Will change change your Suspect List? It’s time to enter Week 3’s list!

    https://goo.gl/forms/C7GPpXQug8tEm2Mu2

    Last week I asked: At the end of the Julius Caesar task, how many people were in The Mole’s balcony?
    A – 2 – 63%
    B – 3 – 37%

    As ever, good luck!

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  26. Scott Rux

    I keep hearing Elder Scrolls music as the music bed for some of the pieces between the challenges. I think it’s from Oblivion, but I didn’t know that it made it to “library music” status

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    1. Brig Bother Post author

      Rather famously WIDM soundtracks from other film and TV sources pretty much all the time, so it wouldn’t be too surprising.

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      1. Brig Bother Post author

        Friend of the Bar Robbie Wynen keeps a Spotify list with WIDM tracks used over the years. The ones you’ll hear most regularly are Oratio by Ugo Farell (the show’s title tune), New York City from The Bone Collector soundtrack (the elimination music that closes the show) and Spiderbots from I Robot, which is the next episode promo music.

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      2. Scott Rux

        I was wrong: the piece I was hearing in WIDM is also used in a Disney mobile game that I play. This is a sentence that I was not expecting to type.

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  27. Andrew, the Yank

    Alas, Bella! I liked her and she seemed to really be enjoying herself. Still, she was low on my list of suspects so I’m happy in that regard.

    This group is a mess. I can’t believe they went back into the negative. And that challenge was so simple! I get that some people are probably trying to make themselves suspicious, but you need money to make winning matter!

    Also, being the first time I’ve watched this version, and this being the first time they have a group elimination, JEEPERS are the music stings even more absurdly dramatic when Art types in the names. My hear was pounding!

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    1. Brig Bother Post author

      To be fair to them, there seems to be a lot more minus money about than usual this year, but the pot will almost certainly end up somewhere in five figures by the end, likely the producers will bump up some of the tasks towards the end.

      Incidentally, and perhaps this is a clue, this is the first time they’ve put task names and values up on the screen.

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      1. Matt Clemson

        I do sometimes wonder if they might rejig the values involved for future games based on how the team has done thus far. The final bonus money challenge last year felt a little bit of that nature.

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        1. Brig Bother Post author

          I think the Dutch are quite clever in this regard, can still point out how much The Mole has cost the team, keeps options regarding how big the pot can get open. As soon as you reveal what the potential is (or worse, advertising almost precisely what the prize is going to be right at the top of the season) you lose that power. It’s not the end of the world (it was perfectly fine in the UK, for example, where the spread across the episodes was pretty even from the outset) but it does take away a tool.

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  28. Andrew, the Yank

    I had an idea years ago when watching US Mole (the original run, to give you an inkling of how long I’ve been pondering this), has any version done something similar? I think it would be interesting if the Mole was rewarded money at the end of the show based on how much they prevented the team from accruing. But to avoid the Mole just being super blatant and always costing the team money, not to mention the producers having to pay out the entire amount on offer, the Mole would lose money based on how many people correctly predicted they were the Mole.

    These numbers aren’t even close to being correct but simplified for demonstrations’ sake, what if say, the Mole lost 1% of their money every time someone chose them in the “Who is the mole?” question of the test?

    Has any version done anything like this? And does anyone think it’s a good idea? I think it would add some interesting tension for the mole themself.

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    1. David

      Mole Australia 5 did it, with the Mole winning anything the team didn’t as long as they didn’t get picked on the test. They got picked by half the cast in the first episode, and instead the show’s sponsor Air New Zealand comped them a flight to the Cook Islands.

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      1. Brig Bother Post author

        Although how paranoid would you become that the production company would start dropping obviously massive hints?

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    2. Dale

      Italy had a Mole pot as well during their run. They had a interesting take on the series as it was aired a bit like Big Brother with 20 minute episodes every night and then special mission episodes. They had a cool tie break with heart rate monitors as well, that made the mole vulnerable to execution. Some info about it is on Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mole_(TV_series)#Italy

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        1. Dale

          That crazy impossible. At that point unless the players are completely clueless its impossible not to know who it is no their end. Unless they win a free pass which is happened before and they just lucked into it in the end.

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          1. Clicky

            I’ve hosted several real life Mole games. All of them took place in the course of the day. I also thought it’d be impossible for nobody to guess the Mole correctly in the end.

            I was mistaken. It happened during my fourth game. 😐

            The scenario: During the first round, every player in the game put their answer on a particular player ‘Andy’, except for one person. The one person who didn’t suspect Andy got eliminated first round. So everyone in the game was convinced Andy had to be The Mole. I think the paranoia was ‘omg everyone is voting Andy if I don’t vote Andy too I’ll get out’… However, Andy was not The Mole, and got executed at final four. So the final two real contestants in the final 3 were totally shocked and ended up guessing each other.

  29. Andrew, the Yank

    As usual, typing my comment whilst I watch.

    As usual, the tunnel challenge was a mess. But I did like how afterward everyone split into their duos to discuss what they saw. Poor Simone though, she lost her partner from the very beginning when they were secluded. 🙁

    I was wondering about the lingering shots of random passersby during the question challenge, when Art said ‘the mole visited you very closely’ does that mean the person was literally physically nearby? Also that’s pretty clever that Art told the contestants they had a chance for an “exemption to the finale” – knowing who the mole is certainly would be that!

    I agree, Emilio. Art IS very handsome. I wouldn’t want to look away either. *dreamy sigh*

    Aw, Emilio! He was cool too! In fact I like everyone in this group I think. The music stings on the names is still absurdly nerve-wracking though.

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    1. Brig Bother Post author

      Aww, I liked Emilio.

      I think there was Very Definitely A Massive Hint during the decisions assignment. The question is did it refer to the shirt or the fingernails? By hints I can nail it down to two people, by actions maybe a third.

      Chances are The Mole was actually there in person, they’ve done this sort of thing before, they’ll reveal how it was done during the final.

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      1. Dale

        I had a inkling something was up when they held a long shot on a blond haired person towards the end of the game. But it looked like a wig so it could have been anyone.

        My guess is when the player said they wanted to know who the mole was then the mole passed by them in some fashion. I need to re-watch but I think that Olcay’s name didnt come up in the “would you eliminate” question but Simone went down a different path than the others so it could easily be a red herring in that case.

        This season it is hard to figure out what is going on. I do like these twists they keep tossing in to the game though.

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        1. Chris M. Dickson

          I wonder if the various paths on the board that might be traced out by possible combinations of people’s answers somehow spell something? The paths did appear to cross over in places rather than being a straight sort of tree.

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  30. John R

    opdracht niets is wat het lijkt = spot the anagram

    Also there was a lingering shot of a pack of cards with one particular card on top – that could link into the house of cards building task previewed next week…

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    1. Dale

      I saw this posted in the YT comments as well. I think at this point they could be giving us names of people who are not the mole. In the intro sequence during the crossword bit someone pointed out is said “Ron is the mol” and you can see “Ron” in the crossword too during the preview.

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    1. Matt Clemson

      Just on principle I want to take the third option for the bonus question… but I fear for my score!

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  31. Daniel Peake

    In a production format note, whilst the challenges are forgiving in terms of the numbers of people who do them, not knowing exactly how many people will be in each episode but be a bit of a nightmare for the producers. At the moment, there could be 6, 7 or 8 people left, depending on how things had worked out!

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    1. Brig Bother Post author

      There’s normally at least one non-elimination leg, so it will be interesting to see when that comes in. They’ve tried twice so far!

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  32. David

    I’m wondering what the actual vote was between the group exemption and the €5,000..I’d think The Mole would want to vote with the majority to avoid suspicion, even if it involved putting money in the pot (because they would know it wasn’t a sure thing they’d get the money)…

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    1. Dale

      I was hoping that by watching it back I could guess what the voted on but the producers are too smart, they know their audience well. The votes that are revealed are:
      Emilio — $
      Jan — ?
      Stine- Ex
      Ruben–?
      Loes–$
      Simone-Ex
      Olcay-?

      So its a tie with what we see I think Olcay may have went for the exemption just by Arts movements and the way he was standing but its still unclear. Also Simone and Olcays name does not come up during the “would you eliminate” question. Ruebens comes up twice.

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    1. Brig Bother Post author

      Really fun challenges this week.

      I think my tunnelvisie has set in, I’m convinced I know who The Mole is now.

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      1. Nico W.

        I feel exactly the same, almost wanted to use my Joker this week. But then again: I’m always wrong at this point. Somehow I feel like I know two people who won’t be the mole, one person who is very neutral and two people I can’t exactly decide on. But this episode I felt like “Obviously it’s a hint for person X” all along. Kind of giving me tunnelvisie-headaches…

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      2. Dale

        Usually by now one of my top three has gone, and that hasn’t happened yet. This happened last year and I ended up having the winner as my mole.

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  33. John R

    That execution music really is so well done, I nearly had a heart attack before Stine’s screen came up!

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  34. David

    On twitter, some have speculated there was a big clue for the audience in the word search….

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    1. Dale

      I wouldnt doubt it. I think that all the players names were in it and the one left uncrossed is the Mol. Maybe someone will get on that because no way I have the time to do a word search in another language XD

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    2. Dale

      Actually upon looking at the solutions on the WIDM site I think that the hint is did the mol strike out their name. This narrows it down to two candidates because one crossed their own name out and the other name is unclear as to who marked it out. I wont say because searching is half the fun 😉 but heres a link to the post on avrotros.
      https://wieisdemol.avrotros.nl/nieuws/oplossing-woordzoekers/

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      1. Nico W.

        There is even an overview on the Wie Is De Mol Facebook page where they show who crossed out which words on the show. So some are unknown, but some were apparently shown and I didn’t notice. It is quite useful I guess, but I can’t really make anything of it…

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  35. David

    The clue I saw was that you can connect one of the names Boggle-style to the words “is De Mol” in the word search. It might just turn out to be a coincidence though..

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  36. Matt Clemson

    I’m having that old problem that my preferred mole is looking a bit *too* moley in this episode, which makes me think that they can’t be. Is that anti-tunnel-vision, or something?

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  37. John R

    Also, surely a twist is coming up to put someone back in the competition or have an execution free week? As otherwise they’re running a bit short of candidates to fill the remaining episodes!

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    1. Matt C

      Don’t they usually ‘budget for’ an assumption of one non-elimination week a series? I know they’ve occasionally put an extra test in the final if two weeks go by without an elimination, it seems simple enough to manufacture one free week… except I guess that since they always frame it in terms of a means of winning a group exemption, it needs to be possible in principle to lose it…

      For the musical-chairs race, I didn’t quite grasp what was going on with the ‘money will be doubled’ – why wasn’t it just double in the envelope itself? So players think the stakes are lower?

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      1. Brig Bother Post author

        I think the idea was to maintain consistency with the treasurer also getting whatever was in the envelope, whether it be cash (for the pot) or jokers (for themselves).

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      2. Dale

        One year they played a game after the test with a red and green card. Green you dont see the screen red you see your screen. They can do something like that and its easy to manipulate as well to make sure that every gets green card.

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  38. Reid

    Question for all: Does anyone here feel that Stine can be ruled out as the Mole based on Loes’s exit interview comments and her comments while she was taking the test? She said that on PAST tests she had always bet mostly on Stine and some on Olcay. Then she said in her exit interview with Art that she didn’t spread enough and focused too much on one person. The logical conclusion from this would be that she again bet heavily on Stine and then was eliminated. But she doesn’t actually say that on THIS test she followed the same pattern, so I am not sure what to think about Stine right now. From a gameplay standpoint, if she had bet mostly on Stine, could she still have lost simply because she got too many answers wrong? Or taken longer than other contestants (I can’t remember if speed in taking the test plays a role)? Would love to hear thoughts anyone is willing to share about this.

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    1. Dale

      Its also a matter of the questions as well. Many of the questions can apply to more than one person for example if olcay and stine were on a team together and one is the mole its correct. Without know all 20 questions its hard to break it down to see what lines up.

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  39. Daniel Peake

    I DON’T KNOW WHO THE MOLE IS ANY MORE

    Anyway, Week 5 of the Suspect List is available here:

    https://goo.gl/forms/QIBs2l85N8mNPwXv2

    Last week I asked: In the ‘follow the clues’ challenge, where was The Mole?
    Underground – 64%
    Overground – 32%
    Wombling Free – 4%

    Apologies to the one person who fell for the gag answer. Whilst I don’t know what the correct answer is yet, ‘Wombling Free’ is worth 0 points. I won’t do that again, no more funny red herring answers. Probably.

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    1. Matt Clemson

      I did wonder if you might treat that like the occasional mystery question mark rewards and award a bonus joker or something. ..

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    2. Reid W.

      Daniel-

      Sorry to bother you about this. Could you check and verify if my Suspect List for this week came through successfully on your end? My iPad got a bit wonky right after I clicked submit and I just wanted to be sure you got it. Thanks and sorry if this is not the proper place to contact you about this—I don’t do twitter and wasn’t sure what your email was. Thanks again.

      -Reid W.

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  40. Andrew, the Yank

    I was watching this episode in a way that did not allow me to comment whilst I was watching, so suffice it to say that the circus task was hilarious. Also, the various weird partnerships with people lying to each other is making this group’s ability to work together even more of a mess, but it’s fascinating seeing them try to play each other.

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  41. Clicky

    I loved EVERY challenge this episode!!

    My top suspect since Day One is still alive and kicking. I’m just waiting for her to make it to the end and… end up being the winner instead >_<.

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    1. Dale

      Happens to me every year. I loathe when my suspect goes home early but at least it gives time to adjust focus.

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