Going Dutch: Met het Mes op Tafel

By | October 7, 2013

Lekker! This week Bother’s Bar goes Dutch where Monday to Friday we hope to showcase some interesting (and long running) Dutch quizzes and games that you can watch online. Dutch catch-up services for their main channels seem rarely geoblocked. For the latest Dutch format news we recommend visiting Squared Eyes’ It’s All About Television blog.

Today Met het Mes op Tafel (With a Knife on The Table), probably the most successful and longest-running poker-based quiz in the world. It is hosted by the actor Joost Prinson, who also invented it with John Cook. It has been going on and off since 1997, currently two series a year are broadcast on NED2.

Three people are staked €750 in actual real looking money. Each round begins with an ante (beginning at €10, doubling through each round until being capped at €80). Four questions are asked and contestants write their answer on a telestrator. The first player (rotating after each round) must either bet (between €10 and €50) or fold. Subsequent players my fold, call (match) the bet, or raise it up to the €50 limit. Joost then reads out the answers, then another round of betting. If more than one person remains, the first player to act must reveal how many answers they’ve got, then there is a further round of betting. Finally, if there is more than one person still in, the pot goes to the person with the most answers – if there’s a tie, a showdown sudden death buzzer question is played.

The lowest scorer is eliminated after round four leaving with nothing. The game continues heads-up until round seven which is all or nothing – the person behind has to go all in and the leader must match it. Another round of four questions, but after they’ve been asked the leader can choose to have one question replaced by another in the same category. The person with the most money at the end is the winner and gets to take it home. Each series is a tournament with 9 heats, three semi-finals and a final, with a large bonus for the ultimate champion.

(Questions to Dutch friends – if the person going into the final in the lead loses, do they keep the money they would have had in front of them? And conversely if the losing player had so little that the final pot still wouldn’t put them in front, do they do anything to juice it up?)

There’s not much on Youtube, here’s a clip from 1997. It plays basically the same but the cash and betting limits are slightly different because it’s played with guilders.

 

The first thing to strike you is how low-key the whole thing feels – the opening sequence does not shout “game show” at you. It properly feels like a backroom of a public house, albeit one with its own bar and piano player (Martin van Dijk, with barmaid Mylou Frencken providing vocals). Joost Prinson seems rather eccentric. As a sort of world it’s quite enticing and wouldn’t feel out of place as a show that would fit right in late night ITV circa mid-nineties, except they’re still making it for Friday evenings in 2013.

The game is interesting. As a no limit poker player myself I thought the betting structure seemed a little odd, but it is simple to grasp and it means the show doesn’t finish within two questions. When I first heard about the show ages ago I remember there was a suggestion that instead of a buzzer showdown there should be an estimated guess question. I was completely down with that right up until actually watching it for myself, whilst I think you’d get more poker out of it it’d also add a lot of extraneous work – if you asked them to do it as part of the set of four, they’d only be resolved once or twice per show. If you do it at the end then you’d be adding two rounds of betting to a round. I’m not quite convinced, although I’m sure there might be a better solution than the buzzers.

Anyway as promised you can watch episodes in full right here. The official webpage is here.

New Lottery Show

By | October 5, 2013

Chris Evans hosts the new National Lottery Live this evening from 9:10 on BBC1. So far, so what, however of interest is that there’s a game called 49-1 on it which will give someone the chance to win £50k live on air. I have no idea what that entails.

Of course if they haven’t used a remix of Ed Welch’s old lottery theme it’s a big fail anyway. It was Ed Welch who did it, wasn’t it?

Meanwhile Endemol Joe is suggesting that in the upcoming Telly Eggheads ITV daytime quiz  Show Me The Telly, Chris Tarrant is going to be one of the professionals every episode, joined by two rotating celebs.

New look Challenge

By | October 4, 2013

Challenge is getting a new look on Monday, apparently. Surely it’s only been like six weeks since the last rebrand?

But more importantly, next week is Going Dutch week on Bother’s Bar I have decided where we’ll take a look at some Dutch quizzes you can watch online, some of which have been going for 20+ years. I hope it will be mildly diverting.

Meanwhile Comedy Central have ordered a comedy gameshow pilot from Initial called The Almost Impossible Gameshow. It is inspired by Wipeout and viral Japanese television clips. Contestants will get five chances to complete five challenges to win a prize.

Edit: It’s all a bit Nick Weir era Catchphrase:

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Fort Boyard: Ultimate Challenge is back on Sunday 20th October

By | October 2, 2013

That’s about a fortnight away. 8:30am on ITV and CITV. It is series four. If you’ve not seen it, it’s a pretty good duel version of the format for teens and young adults trying to appear teenager-y, done as a series long tournament.

So there we are.

Meanwhile Pressure Pad with John Barrowman starts in November. I thought it veered between pretty unoriginal but workmanlike and obscenely dull but who knows what changes they’ve made from the pilot? What will “the internet” make of the final product? Will the prospect of watching One Direction play out for a third time in its entirety make you want to shoot yourself? STAY TUNED.

Fifty 50 Forty-one

By | October 1, 2013

In the LANDMARK 41st episode of of Fifty 50 Show, Lewis talks to himself about Timeline and Big Star Little Star, and is after a co-host, so if you fancy a go then have a listen.

Meanwhile Reggie Yates is hosting a horror-based gameshow on ITV2 for Halloween called Release the Hounds and it sounds Very Much The Sort Of Thing We Like, a group of contestants take on scary challenges in a forest whilst trying to outrun a pack of hounds for money. DS Link.

Introducing… The Labyrinth Lab

By | September 29, 2013

David Bodycombe is up to something and you could be paid money for involvement:

Announcing… the Labyrinth Lab

Labyrinth Games Ltd., run by Crystal Maze and Only Connect alumnus David J. Bodycombe, is looking to run a series of new game show formats over the next few weeks. We are looking for adults who would be prepared to volunteer to help out for some or all of these games, mainly in a contestant capacity.

It is proposed that the games will be run every MONDAY EVENING, from 9pm to a maximum of 11.30pm, though usually it will be much shorter than that.

The games will be run over the Internet using a combination of Google software and YouTube Hangouts. You don’t need to physically travel anywhere, but you will need to satisfy a number of criteria in order for this to work:

1. Most importantly of all, you’ll need to be able to commit to the time and date stated. It will really screw things up if people drop out. In addition, you’ll need to be in a place where you won’t be disturbed during the length of the quiz (up to 2.5 hours maximum).

2. You need to be over 18 years old, a long-term UK resident and playing from the UK. This is due to the question material and possible time lag issues. On most of our planned formats, you will need a reasonable level of quiz knowledge – if you think you could go on Pointless and make a decent fist of it, that’ll do for us. For obvious reasons, you cannot be an active member of a TV production company – sorry.

3. You may need to edit on one screen and watch another screen at the same time. Therefore, you’ll need either a fast 2-screen PC, or a moveable second screen like a tablet or laptop you can place next to your PC. Or two laptops, whatever.

4. You’ll need a decent broadband connection – one capable of streaming 2 or 3 YouTube videos at once (i.e. around 20Mb+) with low-ish ping (suggest 40ms or less).

5. You may need to be ‘on screen’ so you’ll need a webcam that can be enabled. You’ll also need to have a plain or dark background that won’t distract viewers, and reasonable lighting for your face (preferably a positionable desk lamp or two, rather than a top-down room light).

6. For sound clarity, you’ll need a headset that has its own microphone. An in-built laptop mic won’t do.

7. You will need a Google account and maybe even require the know-how to set up a second computer with a second account. Basically, it’ll be an advantage if you’re fairly handy with computers.

The games are mainly for fun at this time. £20 will be given (via PayPal or UK bank transfer) to participants for their trouble – for formats that involve an end game, the finalist(s) will have the chance to win up to £100 as a small cash reward to generate some genuine pressure. The rules relating to any final will be explained clearly in advance.

It’s not been decided yet whether the finished products will be put online immediately, or edited first. However, we do intend to put the shows on YouTube for fan comments.

NOTE: For reasons far too complicated to go into without discussing the formats in great depth, there may be a multitude of reasons why some people may be cast in preference to others. If you are not picked, please don’t be disappointed and do try again next time. We will cast a number of substitutes where necessary – if they are not used for live play, we will do our best to give them first refusal on the next format. Likewise, the techniques we’re using are both extremely new and fairly likely to have problems – if we do have to abandon a particular week’s programme, we will offer contestants another try with either a rerun or another format.

NEXT GAME: We’ll cast each week’s “programme” separately. The first game is a multiple choice trivia quiz called WINDFALL and will be played on MONDAY OCTOBER 7th from 9pm (to 11.30pm maximum). We will need 6 players and up to 3 substitutes.

TO APPLY: Send an email to thelab@qwertyuiop.co.uk with “GAME 1” as your subject heading. In the main body, state your full name, age, usual location, any quiz experience (TV or otherwise) and a couple of sentences about your background.

We are also looking for a ‘right-hand person’ to fill the Wincey Willis/Richard Osman-type roles for score-keeping, time checks, fact backgrounds and so on. If you’re interested in this role, let us know.

Sorry, but we can’t guarantee replies for unsuccessful applicants, but we will try to update this advert once all the places are filled. Everyone, successful or not, is welcome to reapply for future weeks. Details of upcoming formats will be posted on Bother’s Bar in due course.

Thanks for reading this and I hope it’s of interest for some of you.

Best wishes

David J. Bodycombe
Labyrinth Games Ltd.

Interesting stuff. I helped roadtest one of his formats a few weeks ago as a proof of concept and it was quite fun, it’ll be interesting to see if it works properly multiplayer. Anyway those are your details, go to it!