Show discussion: 24 Hour Panel People

By | March 5, 2011

OK then, today’s the day that David Walliams off of Little BritainGamesworld et al does 24 different panel shows (they say panel, but The Generation Game and Give Us a Clue and even Room 101 is probably pushing it a bit) in 24 hours for Comic Relief.

You can watch the live stream (watchable outside the UK, apparently) and donate by clicking on the picture (or, I believe, on the red button), it begins at noon Saturday UK time:

I will probably be dipping in and out of it all day, there is a schedule of sorts of what and who will be involved although they don’t seem to be running to a clock. We wish them all best of luck.

If you don’t catch any of the live stream, BBC3 will have 5×30 shows on it in the run up to Red Nose Day on March 18th, and there will be highlights on the night as well.

Is anyone going to see the High Stakes pilot next week?

By | March 3, 2011

It’s filming up in Manchester on Thursday.

I’m blessed with a job with a very generous leave allowance which I can take at the drop of a hat however I’d rather not use it all up by the end of March. Similarly a train ticket to London is no problem, train tickets + hotels start to add up.

So if you don’t want me at your pilot, go and film it in Manchester. However, is anyone planning on going and would they like to report on it? I notice they’ve got rid of all traces of top one-time gambling-addict and underclass baiter Jeremy Kyle, and that originally it was going to be an ITV/NBC co-production but the NBC bit has been delisted. They’ve also made it sound exactly like Secret Fortune, although I suspect it will be actually different. I’ve already decided that it looks like it’s trying a bit too hard.

A man walks into a bar…

By | March 2, 2011

… and asks the following:

Do you think we miss out by not having a proper, non “old gold”, dedicated gameshow channel in the UK? If we did have one, could it offer more than just repeats? 

Gameshows are big news on the main channels but a dedicated channel might allow for different sensibilities and opportunities for viewers and producers alike… 

You guys are such big gameshow fans. I thought you might have an interesting opinion on this. 

How you choose to respond is up to you.

That’s Yer (Pi)Lot: Holding Out For a Hero

By | March 2, 2011

Wooh! This is Bother’s Bar v3.0’s OFFICIAL 500th post, so well done 12 Yard.

  • OK – this is the show where three people don’t play for themselves, they play for other people and the charities that they have set up.
  • The set – imagine a six pronged thing. Down the end of one of the prongs is the big screen. Down the two prongs next to the screen are lit up tunnels. Down the other three prongs are stages for the contestants to sit.
  • In the middle is a round table from whence 25 different ‘gift cards’ spring up. These are electronically charged by an independent adjudicator. They range from £1k to £20k in £1k increments, and there are obviously duplicates (although no-one knows what they are).
  • Our host is the lovely Gethin Jones. The warm up was Kevin Devine, whom older viewers might remember from That’s Life with Esther Rantzen. Which was a bit of a surprise.
  • The first contestant comes out of the tunnel to meet Gethin in the middle. Questions of the “why are you here? Are you good at quizzes?” style are asked then a VT is played. The subjects of the VTs assume that they were being followed around by cameras for a documentary on good causes, then in the final shot the person who set them up reveals everything, that in fact they’re hoping to win some money for them in a quiz.
  • Brave soul bought out on stage, lots of clapping. A quick chinwag, then the Hero is sent to one of the stages to have a sit down.
  • Each Hero is guaranteed £1,000 whatever happens.
  • The player will face five multiple choice questions, each one with three options. These questions are, on the whole, fairly difficult I thought, certainly very rarely lower than 3/5 on the difficulty scale.
  • After they’ve decided on an answer, Gethin asks them to pick a gift card from the table. This is scanned in and the amount revealed on the screen. Chosen gift cards are not replaced for the next competitiors, which I think may cause an issue if the first players nick all the high value cards to themeselves.
  • The player has some options. They can take the amount as is – in that case if the answer is right the money will be added to the Hero Fund, if the answer is wrong it will be taken away. But they have three ‘tools’ at their disposal which they can use once each – they can “double” to double the cash, “triple” (I think this should be “treble”, but that’s by the by) to triple it or they can “quit” (this would be much simpler if it was just “pass”) in which case the cash is drained away and no money will be won or lost.
  • The object is to score as high as possible, because only the top amount will get paid out. As the other players will get to see the score to beat that means there’s a massive disadvantage to playing first and I largely suspect that most first players without a target to chase will not play it aggressively enough. There is already quite the sense that people would gamble more if they were playing for themeselves, but as they were playing for someone else…
  • Scores can (and indeed will) go into minus figures. A player that finishes in minus figures still gets to keep £1,000 but obviously can’t win the show.
  • Player one gets all their questions first, then they bring out player and Hero 2 and finally Player and Hero 3 for their go. Players, Heroes and supporters are shifted between stages and audience blocks between rounds.
  • There is lots of confetti and ticker tape and fireworks when the winner is revealed.
  • That is basically it. As a game it is, you know, fine. I think the question difficulty stops the show from being quite as exciting as it could possibly be (I think they were very lucky to have a “moment” towards the end of the show). As a production they’ve made some choices that I’m… surprised by.
  • If you’re the sort of person who likes then to get on with it during quizzes, you’re out of luck – the first question won’t come up until five-ten minutes in. This being 12 Yard, there is lots of talking out the answers and painfully lengthy reveals.
  • I was surprised that the Hero was going to be aware of everything. I was under the impression they would be surprised at the end of the show with the cheque. This, of course, is the money shot in philanthropy porn such as in The Secret Millionaire but this just isn’t the case here – they’re told about the whole thing on the VT, they come to the studio and then they spend all of it just hanging round watching in the background. There is none to little pleasant shock value really.
  • It is as expected quite saccharine and yet as it stands I think it needs to go all out for it and appeal to old ladies or tone it down. Currently it operates on a middle ground I found a bit irritating, but this comes with the caveat that I’m a miserable bastard.
  • I love The Geth. He’s young and fun, and Sell Me the Answer suggested he’s a pretty good quiz show host as well – very good with people and audiences. Regrettably in a more formal show such as this his engaging personality didn’t really get a chance to shine I don’t think. I think it’s a shame that he appeared to be having more fun off camera with the pick-ups than shown during the actual recording bits.
  • It was a bit strangely un-12Yard that the mathematics of the game mean that you sometimes know if you’ve won or lost before the fifth question. In the show filmed tonight, the third player had an unassailable lead after four questions but still had to face the fifth one which was a bit of an anti-climax given the sums involved.
  • The show rather interestingly had five advert breaks. This means it’s either going to be longer than an hour (good luck with that) or that ITV are about to adopt the US break system (good luck with that, and also God help us all). Edit: Three parts and 45 minutes are planned.
  • Will it be a hit? I think older women will like it. I think it is too slow to appeal to a more mainstream audience (who may also not like the disconnect between the person answering the questions and the person receiving the money – people tend to like to watch a gamble but when playing on someone elses behalf everybody clammed up a bit). It’s not terrible, but it’s not killer. It failed the seat test, regrettably, but some people I overheard on the way out said they enjoyed it. Personally I think it’s got 3-3.5m written all over it, so make of that what you will.
  • All the evidence suggests this is a different show to the Dick de Rijk show You Deserve It! that’s also floating around currently – conflating the two is a mistake I have made but despite the similar premises they appear to be different formats.

It is late and I might remember some more in the morning, so stay tuned.

Gethin Jones also suggested, after a member of the audience heckled after the show, that Sell Me The Answer has been picked up in The States.

Board of Excitement: 27th Feb – 5th March 2011

By | February 27, 2011

There’s really not that much to get excited about this coming week:

  • BotherSOP Game 4 – only eight games to go after this, so about 24 mentions. It’s the first double stack double money double points game, so lots of chips and emphasis on skill. Ahem. If you’ve never joined us before with so much money floating around, now would be a good time. The game discussion page is here. (Tonight 8pm Full Tilt)
  • The Amazing Race – don’t know why I’m billing this really, I’m not watching it.
  • Holding Out for a Hero pilot – I should be at this on Tuesday. I largely predict the format will be pretty standard, but that’s not the point because it’s all about the philanthropy porn money shots, baby. With Gethin Jones. (Tuesday).
  • Survivor – There’s a lot going for this season and yet I’m not really feeling it. I hope the Redemption Arena will be worth the wait. (Thursday, CBS)
  • Accumulate – Look out cash-in coffee drink “the Accumulatte” coming out this Christmas. I’m actually a few weeks behind on this. Christ, I’m rubbish at the moment. (Friday, RU:ON)

Meanwhile here is Challenge TV’s new website. Underwhelming.

I have also done a thing (and therefore won some points), so that discussion posts for new shows are less easily lost, I’ve added a little category board on the left, look.

Saturday Night’s Alright For Writing – 26th Feb 2011

By | February 26, 2011

Sorry, other than Wednesday’s excitement it’s been a bit of a slow news week. Hopefully next week will be a bit better (there’s another pilot recording review to come on Tuesday).

In the meantime here’s a picture of Elton John so it can only mean our lazy catch-all post for discussion all things Saturday night, whether it be unfortunate allegations in The Sun regarding contestants (thanks to Travis P for the link – follow him here on Twitter) to failing to get your head around the last couple of questions on Secret Fortune once again (but look at those ratings!).

  • Let’s Dance for Comic Relief (BBC1, 7pm)
  • Ant and Dec’s Push the Button (ITV, 7:30pm)
  • The National Lottery Secret Fortune (BBC1, 8:20pm)
  • Take Me Out (ITV, 8:45pm)

And also the next few episodes of Power Struggle/Maa al tayar should be avaliable on Al Jazeera, hopefully.