Visually iconic

By | July 8, 2013

Amazingly and somewhat bafflingly, the visually iconic Pressure Pad with John Barrowman has been commissioned for a 25 episode series. In the main the game is occasionally massively boring, with only Barrowman shouting livening things up. Here’s what I thought of the pilot back in March.

Now a question. Would you like to play award-winning podcast quiz The Line Up? I am looking for contestants. But it’s not just any old contestants I’m looking for, I noticed how brilliantly the Million Pound Drop larger team twist works and thought I’d emulate it, or rather I thought about doing this months ago. But anyway.

I’m after teams of two. Ideally you will have a pre-existing relationship – friends, workmates, lovers, brothers, whatever. You will both need Skype. You will both need to be able to record your mic feed (using Audacity, for example). It would be more entertaining if your general knowledge is up to a reasonable standard, questions are once again biased towards pop culture but not at the exclusion of everything else.

If you think you fit the bill and you think it sounds like fun then drop me a line – mail, Twitter or leave a comment. This is kind of an experiment, please don’t be offended if I don’t select you, I may use you on a future episode if there are any. The usual prizes are in effect.

Let’s have a chat about Exit

By | July 8, 2013

Exit.S01E01Long time patrons of the Bar will know that we really like the Japanese show Dero! so much so that pretty much immediately after watching an episode we wanted to find out as much about it as we could and ended up writing this feature on it. So naturally we were quite excited when we heard that there was going to be an English languange version, then tempered our excitement when we remembered that American adaptations of non-US entertainment shows are pretty much universally rubbish.

Still though, a picture was released of the show’s Beam Room a couple of weeks from launch and suddenly we were quite excited again, it looked like they’ve kept the spirit of the Japanese show fairly well. We were hopeful.

And then we finally watched it and thought it was basically not completely awful, probably about as good as we could have expected from the staff who were behind it but that it definitely missed a trick or two. Which on further viewing just makes the whole thing seem a bit more disappointing.

Handsome manly serial killer Curt Doussett invites four teams of two to his brown bunker in the middle of some mountain somewhere. One team will get the chance to walk away with $10,000. They will do this by entering rooms, answering some pop culture questions then leaving with the teams that do least well in answering pop culture questions being despatched.

The first game in each episode is the beam room and is by far the most successful – people get on beams (which purport to be 72 inches/six foot but I’m not sure I’m buying it) and have to solve puzzles whilst all the time they are thinking the beams they are standing on retract into the wall, eventually a team will run out of beam and plummet about eight feet onto a crash mat into the abyss below never to be seen again. Whilst they’re solving visual puzzles we’re treated to confessionals explaining how difficult a puzzle was to solve (filmed, if haircuts are anything to go by, weeks after), followed by footage of them not doing very well at solving a puzzle. As proof of concept the beam room totally works.

Unfortunately in trying to tie the ideas from the original Japanese show into their all-or-nothing based structure, the rest of the rooms suffer terribly with things that look like they might pose jeopardy but not really. Take fan favourite the Stone Monster – here the suitably imposing Shredder. In it teams attempt to solve word puzzles at various stations in a tunnel whilst an enroaching monster/the shredder threatens to eat them up. Now in the Japanese show there is actual danger that the monster might get close enough to eat someone up – they’ve got to turn around and punch it on the nose, which will sacrifice a team member but buy more time for the remaining contestants. Not so here, here there is no danger of that happening, simply the team who takes the longest time to answer all the questions gets swallowed whilst the production make it look like something exciting might happen but won’t. It’s a pretty poor adaptation not helped by the refusal to allow partial team success.

The sand room makes for genuinely terrible television. The original had contestants working out people, places or things given clues against the clock whilst sinking into quicksand usually played solo or as a pair. The US show takes this idea then makes it as tedious as possible, a back and forth battle of clues where if you don’t know the answer you sink a little bit into the sand. After fifteen wrong guesses, you’re sunk, which means we are probably going to be watching upwards of thirty attempts at giving a correct answer to clues which are usually so obscure they might not have bothered.

The end games with the crushing ceiling and water tank are more successful, as well they probably should be given that these are basically all or nothing in the Japanese show as well and therefore require the least adaptation. Unfortunately whilst the Japanese show featured quite clever Crystal Maze-esque locked room puzzles and wordplay here we are limited to “put these things in order” followed by “answer some questions” against a time limit, which they probably fiddle for a close finish anyway. We’re thrown a bone with the use of a stroop test in the water tank.

It all adds up to something I desperately want to like but ends up a bit disappointing. But at least unlike Whodunnit? they don’t feel the need to answer the question “have they really just murdered these people?”, assuming the audience is basically intelligent enough to know the answer (which is “no”, incidentally). It was never going to go for the Japanese variety angle (the Japanese show has prizes but is played mainly with celebrities for laughs) but in taking it more seriously they’ve made the game much less interesting to its detriment.

If you’ve not had a chance to watch it (and they’ve made it quite difficult), a few episodes have been put up on YouTube so watch them whilst you can:

Show Discussion: Fort Boyard France 2013

By | July 5, 2013

boyardlogoSaturdays, 19:45 UK time,
France 2 or naughty internet streaming

Ah! It’s back.

It’s funny to think we’ve gone from jumped-up outward bound centre to fully fledged fairy-tale-esque direction in the last few years, but if you can’t have an element of other-worldyness in a castle in the middle of the ocean where can you have it? The big difference between the direction of the show 15-20 years ago and now is that it’s a much more knowing postmodern take – this year we have the Pere Fouras Show (a gameshow within a gameshow with Rocky Horror stylings – META) and characters played by actual proper celebrities who have been previous contestants.

The new games look good – there’s a definite air of Wipeout-esque slapstick to many of the new key games – if last year was the year of the menotte, this year’s big game mechanic is turntables and things that spin. Looks like the council is now three games played for 10, 20 and 30 seconds for a possible four minutes in the treasure room, I think there’s less chance of something stupid like the fifteen minute segment leading to a five second final difference like last year, and even breaking even should feel like an event.

I hope they’ve sorted their music out. We want TUNES!

The UK kids version will air later in the year.


After the Koh-Lanta affair earlier in the year, Adventure Line probably need this to be a success more than ever. It’s also the first post-Antoine season of the show as well.

Tom Scott attempts to get 21 Questions Wrong

By | July 3, 2013

Well this is just incredible.


Good work Tom, good work Dan, and good work Michelle who put it all together – really tight edit, nice one.

If you want to be a contestant on the audio version (and hey! why not check out the Best Of!) then you should @danielpeake on Twitter.

Enjoy it before they get someone like Dave Berry or someone to ruin it on Channel 4.

Fifty Fifty 32

By | July 1, 2013

In the MILESTONE 32nd edition of Lewis Murphy’s Fifty 50 Show, Only Connect‘s David J Bodycombe comes on to chat about format development and pitching. You won’t want to miss this one (I imagine, I haven’t listened to it yet)! Also includes an EXCLUSIVE Listener Offer.

Hey! Speaking of podcasts, do you remember hugely promising Bother’s Bar quiz podcast The Line Up? Well it’ll be coming back soon for at least a one-off, and this time with an EXCITING Million Pound Drop style well thought-out twist. Look out for more details soon.

Board of Excitement July 1st

By | July 1, 2013

We’ve not done a board of excitement for, like, ages, however there’s so much interesting and intriguing stuff at the moment I’m writing this as much for myself as everyone else. So this is what we’re interested in this week:

  • Whodunnit? (Yesterday, ABC in the US) – I said previously I thought it was a bit disappointing and I stand by that, but all the same I’m interested to see how it pans out.
  • Avec ou Sans Joker (Weekdays, 5:50pm UK time, France 2) – new quiz with holographic characters. Given that it sounds like France 2 passed on an apparently more-serious-and-point-missing Avanti un Altro, I wonder if this is an attempt to use some of the ideas in their own way. We’ll see. Edit: Well that was fairly wrong. See comments for write-up.
  • Le Cube (Weekdays, 6:30pm UK time France 2) – Avec Nagui! And for some reason they’ve changed all the music, and the theme tune sounds like some sort of wacky spy caper. Daily too, you’ll note. You should be able to watch these shows on Pluzz.fr with a decent VPN, although you might be able to watch on a naughty streaming site somewhere.
  • The Mole (Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Seven Network Australia) – Aussie Mole is BACK and it’s… a bit weirdly scheduled? It’s on three nights this week and the suggestion is the elimination is going to be on Thursday. Also that they’ve taken a more Dutch approach to things this time round. Also that it’s not a classic series. Also I don’t know if it’s being scheduled three times a week for the entire series or just this first week. Basically we don’t know much. I will set up a page for it in due course. Here’s the official page, they’ve basically dropped the Culture Clash thing.
  • Exit (Tuesday, SyFy US) – I gather the last room to be revealed is coming this week. When I’ve watched it, expect a post on the show. It looks like SyFy are now putting (geoblocked) episodes up on its website.
  • The Hero (Thursday, TNT US) – actually they’re showing a catch-up marathon this week for some reason (Edit: it’s Independence Day. D’oh.). However I really hope this gets a second series to refine the ideas of the first one because I think there are some really interesting ideas at work here, especially now player eliminations have begun whereby if you fail the final challenge you’re sent home but if you win you send someone else home (or take some money and self-eliminate), but does that mean you want to be the one to take on the final challenge or not? And if you’re offered a temptation do you take the money knowing that final task is going to be harder but people might enact revenge on you or what if there’s some sort of switch so you end up getting voted into it yourself and you’ve stuffed it up for yourself and what is America going to think and OH GOD. Also it’s brilliantly shot. I just think they need to consider the money amounts more and set up the final challenge so the result is not basically a gimme on the basis of the team challenge. Otherwise I think this show has a lot of heart, as The Rock  (or just Rock to his friends) would probably say.
  • 72 Hours – (TNT US, Friday) I was very disappointed that last week’s wasn’t “available” yet. It’s just really solid in a good way.
  • Fort Boyard – (France 2, Saturday, 19:45 UK time) OH MY GOD I AM TWELVE AGAIN. Nice font.


Pity none of these shows are British, eh?