It’s Schlag Saturday! 7:15pm, 16th March 2013 #bbsdr

By | March 16, 2013

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Again, AGAIN, for the fortieth time in fact it’s time for German überstar Stefan Raab to defend his money from people who would try and claim it, and tonight there’s a whopping €1m in the jackpot. And once again we’ll be providing an English language commentary which will run about ten seconds behind your internet stream of choice, and about thirty seconds behind the actual broadcast.

We know.

Still it’s normally quite good fun, and tonight’s musical guests include Lena, Robbie Williams and Leslie Clio! I know, THE Leslie Clio! Outstanding.

Once again you are encouraged to join in the fun by tweeting with the hashtag #bbsdr or leaving comments on the Youtube stream, either of which will get picked up by us in the studio (we’re not in a studio) and we’ll read out the best things. The show starts at 7:15pm UK time, although the first 45 minutes is picking a contestant, the games start proper around 8pm. Recently it’s tended to finish around midnight, but it’s an open ended live show so it could finish later than that.

This is the stream we will probably be using to commentate on.

Here’s Part Two of our LIVE commentary!

We’re limited to broadcasting in four hour bursts, so around 10pm we will need close down our first stream and start a fresh one. This will happen during an ad break or musical interlude, and we will update on here and on Twitter with the new addresses as soon as we can.

If you’re new to Schlag den Raab then welcome! I’ve included a basic FAQ under the cut.

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Watching Telly: 5 Minutes To A Fortune

By | March 14, 2013

Friend of the Bar Martyn With A Y Not An I went and saw this yesterday and I think it sounds very encouraging, he wrote this:

  • I guess you would call it a crash between Minute To Win It (short snappy rounds) and the first round of The Krypton Factor (speed thinking puzzles) and, bar one minor irritation, isn’t a bad show. Given the amount of shows being recorded (including the envitable celeb specials) it does give the impressionthat Channel 4 are hoping for good things for this.
  • Studio. Probably the last gameshow to be recorded in TC8 at the BBC Television Centre. Audience sit out of shot (just) at one end – the seating is split into two sections by a huge back projection lit screen. There is a nice multi-coloured star cloth wrapped around the set, and on the centre of the studio floor a eye shaped raised stage, leading to a small curved walkway, and a further small circular stage at the back of this with a icewhite podium/plinth with a large red button/dome on it. To the right of this, hanging down from the lighting grid is a very large screen, and futher to the right of this, is our rather large silver and perspex eggtimer, on a small raised stage with a HD screen at the base of it. The egg timer is filled with what we are led to believe are 50,000 plastic coins.
  • Music and Graphics. Lots of reds yellows and whites in the graphics. Music – strings and pulsing tension drums, which don’t sound like it’s from the keyboard
    of Marc Sylvain (for once).
  • Host – Davina McCall in usual form. Matey, chummy, tactile, shouty, consoling. And there is an unseen ‘voice of god’ question reader, who sounds like Gideon Coe off of BBC Six Music.
  • A team of two play over 6 or 7 rounds. One chooses the rounds/subjects to play and how long to give his mate to answer the 5 questions, and then during those rounds, goes and stands behind the icewhite podium. The other, stands at the end of the stage, facing the audience (so has their back to the podium),  and the big centre screen answering the questions. Davina stalks menacingly behind the question answerer. To take home the £50,000, they have to complete 5 rounds within 5 minutes, and navigate the final round and answer that in lightning quick time.
  • At the start of the game, they are presented with 7 vague question categories. These can be things like ‘bookworms’ ‘telly addicts’ ‘political animals’ etc. Podium mate (lets call him that) chooses the category for question mate. Then he must decide how much of the 5 minutes, to allocate to play on that round. It is a free choice how much or little you take out to play the round, but with the ever decreasing amount of time left as the game goes on, common sense says most will opt to take 1 min per round.
  • So, let’s say the chosen category is ‘number cruncher’ and 1 minute is allocated to this round. Gideon reads out (and is demonstrated on screen) an example… Four numbers are displayed at the bottom of the screen – eg – 2, 5, 9 , 12. In each case, the question mate has to reorder the numbers in alphabetical order to how they are spelt, so the answer would be – Five, Nine, Twelve, Two. He has to do this 5 times within the minute. If yes, well done. However, with 10 seconds of the pre-set time limit remaining, the egg timer slowly turns over,  and when the round time limit is reached, the coins slowly start to drain out. When the 5 questions have been answered, the egg timer stops dropping the coins.
  • The player is allowed to pass as many times as they wish, and a new question is given. Passed on questions are not returned to – but the answers are revealed once the round is completed. It’s worth pointing out, that no matter how quickly the questions are answered, time saved by being quick and correct is useless because the time remained on the clock when each round finished is not returned. So if you choose in the first round 90 seconds to complete it, and you use 45secs, the team would still get 3.30 left for round two, rather than 4.15. [Brig’s note: this makes perfect gameplay sense, otherwise you’d just choose “all the time you have left” every round]
  • At the end of each round, if the egg timer has released some of the coins, these are released and counted, and the amount lost is revealed, and then, that amount is deducted from the running total.
  • Now, podium mate does have a part to play during the actual question answering phase of the game, because only once during any of the rounds, he can press the dome button on top of the plinth which acts as an ’emergency stop’ button for the round if question mate is sinking, and getting into a spiral of passes. If the stop button is pressed, the game stops, but if it’s pressed before the egg timer flips around, then any of the cash is saved. The only other penalty is that podium mate doesn’t choose the next round, that is ‘chosen at random’ from the ones left.
  • This is played in the same way until all five rounds (or 6 if the emergency stop button was pressed) have been played, and then one final round for the money. Here though, it’s roles reversed and it’s podium mate who will be playing and there is no choice of category, but belongs straight out of ‘Who Dares Wins’. To win, they have to provide 5 answers based on a list. There is no physical time limit – but there is a cash limit, because they are playing up against the remaining coins left in the egg timer. As soon as the question is revealed, the egg timer flips over and the coins start draining away, until all five answers have been provided, or, all the cash drains away. Fin. Clap, end credits.
  • I was slightly concerned during recording that after each round Davina threw to a break, which would make it hard work to watch and follow on television, as most rounds only last between 2-4 mins. But it was just done that way to allow an edit point. Now, to please some around here – game rollovers from one day to the next will happen and some shows will feature more than one team of contestants. Which makes a nice change.
  • With the format, my main deflated feeling (other than walking past empty deserted rooms on the way to the studio) was that it’s no good advertising the team can win £50,000 – when it’s plainly obvious that it’s almost impossible to. To win it, you would need to nail the five rounds in under the 5 mins, and then shout out 5 answers in the final in around 5 seconds before the eggtimer flips over and the cash starts to fall away. I guess the average win will end up being £1,000 – £5,000 and going home with zero are possible.
  • Another issue I had was there was no sliding scale of difficulty with the questions. Some were fairly easy, and lightweight knockabout fun and some are quite tough for a 5pm quizzer.
  • The political animal round was a series of made up e-bay style adverts selling something that would identify the politician/statesman, which the contestant had to name – i.e – “for sale a 2nd Jaguar car, previous owner doesn’t need it anymore after last general election”. Pretty easy to play at home.
  • Give another couple of round examples – the pop music round consisted of the first line of song lyrics, with the spellings of each of the words, except either the first or last word jumbled up, and the contestant had to give the song title. Tricky. The film round was to name 5 movies based on credits – main male/female lead, writer and director scrolling up the screen. Throw in the reordering based on how it’s spelt or by saying the colour it is in, and you have a slightly jarring mix of shout out with minimum of thinking, to concentrating quite hard.
  • And that’s it. 2 hours later, a few pick-ups, a couple of enivitable computer system breakdowns and we were let lose back into Wood Lane. It’ll be quite a nice little show once edited, but I am slightly worried up against the pincer movement of Pointless and The Chase, at 5pm this may get a little lost which would be a shame.

I’m actually going to be watching an episode so find out how much I agree… soon! Thanks Martyn.

Edit: I went and saw this earlier today, here’s some stuff I observed.

Conclave as a gameshow

By | March 13, 2013

THE POPE!

Right, there has of course been a show that sort of was in effect conclave as a gameshow. Unan1mous, which started in the US and came across to Channel 4 in 2006 and even had a spin off show fronted by Paddy MacGuinness.

In it a group of nine people gather in a bunker and stay there until they can decide between them who gets the money. Every time they don’t get a unanimous decision something bad happens to push them into making a decision – chiefly the money starts ticking away, also things like secrets being revealed to make it difficult for other people to win – even when a contestant was Outcast, they were still required to stay in the Bunker and vote (and if they were fortunate find a way back into the game proper). Someone walking out cost the group half the money.

I dug the setting. Actually I quite enjoyed the show, but it wasn’t popular enough to get a second series either side of the pond.

POP FACT: The show was co-devised and hosted in the US by JD Roth, who hosted their version of Fun House.

Five minutes to Five Minutes to a Fortune

By | March 13, 2013

Five Minutes to a Fortune has started filming this week, we should have something for you about that before the week is out.

In the meantime rumours are suggesting that Emma Willis might take on the Big Brother hosting role. Seeing as that’s basically a one evening a week job, we’d hope she’d still do Bit On The Side as well. Willis Monday-Thursday, Levine Friday-Sunday and extra eviction nights. Sorted.

That’s Yer (Pi)Lot: Pressure Pad

By | March 12, 2013

Just got back from watching this being filmed at ITV Studios (Studio 1, TV geeks).

  • It’s a bit confusing what they were after, warm-up suggested they wanted a Saturday night style crowd, lots of other things pointing to an afternoon quiz slot.
  • The host is one man force of nature John Barrowman who was basically what you’d expect John Barrowman to be like for every minute of the three hours this took to film. Highly entertaining and can deliver an autocue, but not a natural quiz show host (for all his popularity if I heard him say “the time won’t begin until after I finish the question” one further time I might stab someone). About 60% of the audience consisted of Harry Enfield’s Lovely Wobbly Randy Old Ladies so there’s a guaranteed audience there, but Barrowman hosting a daytime afternoon quiz seems like an odd career move. Also I don’t ever want to hear the word “pressure” in any context ever again thanks.
  • The prize is £2,000 PLUS a rolling jackpot. They kept the rolling jackpot hidden until the endgame for some reason, as it is you’re splitting any winnings amongst five people. Because yes! The game involves two teams of five, in each round one person from each team will perform a head to head with the loser leaving the game and everything coming down to the final round. It’s the most 12 Yard-ish format 12 Yard have done in some years.
  • The set is dominated by a 15ft diameter (I’d guess) circular screen on the floor, this is the Pressure Pad of the title. The two teams of contestants stand on platforms either side of the Pad about 6ft off the ground basically overlooking the games. The set is otherwise stark – blank panels with lights in between otherwise a black surround. Blue and pink are the two team colours, but that doesn’t mean one team is male and the other female, each team is mixed gender and have a pre-existing relationship.
  • OK so there are five games – for the first four the captain will choose one of their players to duel off. If you win you stay for the final, if you lose you’re off the show (not in the Eggheads style, literally off the set). The games are all quizzes that take place on… the Pressure Pad. Teammates watch, but the players selected to play the games can’t confer.
  • Game one is Radar. It’s a list quiz. A contestant stands either side of the Pressure Pad (I’m probably just going to call it the screen in future, because for all intents and purposes that’s what it is). A sonar-like hand moves clockwise round the pad, when it’s pointing in the contestant’s zone they have to give an answer before it leaves the zone. Giving a wrong answer or taking too long and you lose a life and a different question is asked. In each game each contestant has two lives, lose them both and lose the duel. Workmanlike but not what you’d call original and you get about five seconds thinking (read: dead air) time when really you want it speeding up as the game progresses, with big lists (tonight: Bond films and US States) this should not cause too much of an issue.
  • Game two is One Direction and wins the award for worst use of prop 2013. It’s an ordering quiz, you stand either side of the Pad and you see three answers and you simply have to put them in a correct order. Now seeing as it’s a walk on screen you’d think you’d have the contestant make a trail by walking across the answers in the desired order? Not a bit of it. The contestant will make their order (they have about 30 seconds to do it), Barrowman will repeat it back BUT THIS TIME with them lighting up (although with no visual indication of a sort of route) AND THEN they’ll go through the correct order by lighting each correct step visually, and drawing an arrow in between them even though it would be much quicker to have the contestant trace a route then go BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM you’re right/wrong. Each contestant faces a three part question, then a four part question, then a five part question until someone stuffs up and loses a life. AND THEN! AND THEN! THEY GO BACK TO A THREE PART QUESTION AND THEY DO THE ENTIRE WHOLE HUGELY BORING THING again. AND THEN A THIRD TIME. If someone stuffs up, the other player is not obliged to get their question right at that level, that part of the game has ended. Starting games alternates after each loss of life.
  • Never before have I wanted a contestant to lose so badly just to get the game over with.
  • Game three is Selector: Barrowman reads out a question such as “Who are these people better known as?” and eight names come up on the floor (like Marshall Mathers III, Pricilla White etc.).  Contestants take it in turn to choose and stand on an element (why they couldn’t do this in the last round is beyond me) and give the correct answer for that element (in these instances Eminem and Cilla Black). Therein lies a potentially quite interesting and fun game of forward thinking strategy. EXCEPT. EXCEPT. Once an element has been used it’s replaced with a new one, so the game effectively keeps going until you’re stumped by all eight elements. This game has the added cheer that nobody on the production realised that the hosts and contestants from their marks would be looking at everything upside down. Did no-one think to put some sort of overhead screen up? Again the question and the elements change after each life lost.
  • Game four is Borderline. A map of the UK gets a line drawn down it. A question is asked and you’re meant to stand on the segment that contains the right answer. After both people give a correct answer a further line is placed on the map to create a new segment. Repeat until someone stuffs up then (sigh) like round two the whole game starts again. This is not an awful idea for a game, but with about 30 seconds to decide on an answer and a removal of difficulty after a wrong answer it gets very dull and again I wanted someone to stuff up just to end it.
  • Game five is the Final played by the captains and with any team members left able to give advice from the bleachers. Each team races to answer four questions, the first has two choices, the second three, the third question four and finally the fourth question five possibilities. The team with the most team members goes first. In front of the Captain is a sort of brickwork on the screen with 2, 3, 4 and 5 bricks on each row and a big gold bar with £2000 on it in the middle. A question is asked and the two possibilities are shown, after taking the team’s advice the captain steps on a right answer. After some tension pausing, the team are told if it’s right or not – if it’s right they play on, if not then the wrong answer is removed and the other team get to start their race to the middle – if you get control again then you get the same question but you’ve eliminated one of the wrong answers. The first team to get the five-answer question correct wins the money. Frankly this could do with a thirty second time limit on giving answers. The questions are not gimmes by any means.
  • BUT THERE’S MORE because there’s also a rolling jackpot element. If you get all four questions right in one go you win the jackpot, starting at £1,000 and increasing by £1,000 a day. This is not represented on the gold bar graphic. This applies to both teams not just the team that goes first.
  • And that’s it really, rather small c conservative and two places I wished it was much better, or at least much less tedious. The rest is workmanlike but could be more interesting and fun, but it probably doesn’t matter what I think because I suspect John Barrowman brings in a reasonable audience regardless of the format.

Fifty 50 20

By | March 11, 2013

The new episode of Fifty 50 is out! This week Lewis Murphy discusses Beat the Pack and Countdown with Dave Mattingly, who is also the contestant on the most jawdropping game of 21 Questions Wrong yet (at least I assume that’s on there, I’m writing this without having listened to it first):

IN THE MEANTIME:

  • The final reveal subbed episode of Wie is De Mol? is up. Links to all the episodes and our discussion is currently linked to up in the masthead, although it will get archived in the Specials Board on Friday.
  • We had a quick look at new Dutch quiz Weet ik Veel yesterday (you can watch here), it’s a student quiz with Linda de Mol that celebrities compete in and you play along with an app. It’s basically Test the Nation with the Wonderwall as an end game. Vierkante O dissects it here, it got great numbers for its first ep and the app crashed.
  • Daniel Peake is on The Common Denominator this afternoon, C4 at 3:30pm.
  • It’s the Only Connect Comic Relief Special tonight! BBC4 8:30pm. Guests are Charlie Higson, Rufus Hound, Susan Greenfield, David Mitchell, Bill Turnbull and Rosie Boycott.