Show discussion: Fort Boyard 2010 Grand Final

By | August 21, 2010

Well, all good things must come to an end – after twenty years and twenty-one seasons, it’s very very likely that this will be the last we’ll see of Fort Boyard (on France 2) for the forseeable future. It remains to be seen if they will still make the show for other countries who want to make it in future years, and if they do how much will they bother with new stuff?

But let us not mourn, let us celebrate tonight’s grand final – three great teams (including a team of four made up of people who played the game twenty years ago) vieing for the €40,000 top prize. They’ve already proven themselves, so it’s basically going to come down to which team has the better treasure collecting technique I expect.

Under few circumstances would I suggest this season has been better than the twenty traditional seasons that have gone before it, but looking at the success the two-team format has had in recent years in the rest of Europe I can totally understand why they choose to go down this path with their last roll of the dice. And having been refining it for a good six-seven years now, they’ve finally found a two-team format that feels convincing. It’s not perfect, but it does give something to work with.

I think it would make a good 60-minute Saturday early evening format for the BBC. This is by no means perfect, but I think I would do it a little bit like this:

  • Ideally, eight-team knockout tournament.
  • 60 minutes without adverts means I reckon you could fit in four rounds, a round consisting of one duel and two timed challenges.
  • The teams would collect clues, but because of the extra round and to keep a bit of history, the first game they win would be for a key – effectively both teams begin on a -1 clue penalty.
  • The duels can be whatever, as they are now. The timed challenges for rounds 1-3 are in the traditional cells of the fort. The challenge for round four would be an “EXTREME challenge” i.e. what you used to call an adventure. This is for some much needed progression.
  • The winners of the duel get increasingly more power as the show progresses. There is no bonus in round one. In round two, the winning team is told what the next two games are and can select one for themselves. In round three, not only can they select but the losing team is obliged to win the key or become a prisoner. In round four (for the EXTREME challenge), the winning team gets to select the game AND forbid one player from the losing team from picking themselves to play, and both teams are obliged to win their challenge or lose a player. Hopefully this will go some way to alleviate the problem that the biggest strongest male plays most of the games.
  • The riddles should be kept in some capacity, either one up in the watchtower (in which case, you need to employ someone for the watchtower) as a duel, or the other thing I came up with was the host asking a riddle before duels three, four and the treasure room and if any team gets two of them they win a bonus clue.
  • Prisoners are kept in the dungeon using the current system – if a team takes more than one then the newest one replaces the oldest one. After the four rounds, the teams play the one table duel (inevitably the Holding the Weight game, because it’s probably the best one). The winning team gets their prisoner released, the losing team must have their prisoner Escape the Dungeon within the time limit or forfeit one of their clues. If neither team has a prisoner, then they can do the Crossbow Relay for a bonus.
  • The treasure room I’m keeping as is, with the proviso that the gold is converted directly into money again, which the winning team can take home provided they’ve got the codeword correct. If both teams are wrong, then both leave with nothing but whoever collected the most gold at least gets to come back and have another go in the next stage. The winners of the grand final win a divisible by four bonus.
  • Setting. This is difficult to get right, but the French show used to be quite good at being fantastical but without being embarrassing about it, and I certainly see no problem with trying to capture the imagination. In fact I think it’s needed. Turning the fort and its history into basically a jumped-up outward bound centre (regardless that that is what it actually is) as they have this year has hurt it, I think – sure, they’ve still got a 200 year-old man dispensing riddles and they still have people in tiger masks, but the roles this year have been basically lip service. A host playing it quite straight (as the French have proven, it doesn’t actually need someone Crystal Maze-esque eccentric, someone with a strong personality and a sense of authority would do nicely. “Welcome to me little holiday home!”) but with a production that hints at things happening beneath the surface would play quite well I reckon.
  • Music is very important, and I’m *totally* putting the adventure music back on games they were designed for. New or remixed versions depending on what they are. Games where the music doesn’t provide a clear identity will be dealt with on a whim. 
  • Obviously you would have to do the final at night, and double obviously there has to be a Champions vs Celebrities Christmas special. Obviously.

If I had to make a two team format, that is the way I would do it. I think.

Only Connect series 4 starts on September 6th on BBC4

By | August 19, 2010

Only Connect series 4 starts on September 6th on BBC4.

To celebrate, here is a question I floated by David B earlier in the year. It’s quite easy, it’s a picture sequence, the question is what would you expect to see in the fourth picture?

Picture 1

Edit: Oh and I’ve messed that right up. Anyway, the pictures are/would have been the MARCH Hare, APRIL O’ Neill (from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles), Theresa MAY MP (fun fact: when I originally pitched this it was Louisa MAY Alcott) and finally, the one I was after was JUNE Whitfield. Well done Tom!

Why not try survival?

By | August 18, 2010

Poor ITV1, and indeed poor Millionaire – as much as I like the revamp, clearly quite a few people (such as myself) don’t like it enough to actually watch it week on week, last night’s was down half a million on the series opener a fortnight ago. But the big question is this: if you were to axe Millionaire, what do you put in its place? Odd One In and Magic Numbers aren’t doing the business on Saturday nights (although I think at least one of those is because Saturday nights is completely the wrong place for them). Even Bother’s Bar non-favourite The Colour of Money could pull in bigger figures than Millionaire currently is. And that was rubbish.

So what I’m basically leading up to is this: why doesn’t ITV try Survivor again? Back when it was shown on British TV ten years ago, it would happily pull in 5-6m viewers – at the time, the low side of solid, despite actually being a great show (albeit much slower paced than necessary). In 2010, those are big hit numbers.

Of course, there are no guarantees that it would pull the same numbers in 2010. But it remains a solid performer around the world years after it was first unleashed. It’s clearly got something going for it.

There are of course things to object about. What if people associate Survivor 2010 with the abject failure of Survivor 2001? Then just call it Expedition Robinson. Survivor UK reportedly cost £10m to make which is a huge amount in this day and age. But to that I say “don’t emulate the Americans, have a word with Strix (Swedish), Adventure Line (French) or Talpa (did the Netherlands/Belgian one for a bit) to see how they make a successful long-running show on evidently a much smaller budget. Fewer massive set pieces, more grit.”

Could it work?

Welch vs Lawrence

By | August 17, 2010

To begin, 3-2-1 is finally over. What did Tom reject, and what’s he walking away with?

In the meantime, Chris MD posed an intriguing question yesterday: who was better: Ed Welch or Zack Lawrence? Lawrence of course has some great tunes to his name – Peak Performance for Treasure Hunt, Force Field for The Crystal Maze and Rock Revolution for Interceptor (although that’s basically a cover), I just don’t think you can beat the eighties synth stylings of Ed Welch:

Man, I really want to watch Knightmare now. Awesome.

Incidentally, Perfection is getting rerecorded 14th-23rd September at the London Studios. Lost in TV have the details.

NEW! Who Wants to be a Millionaire US

By | August 16, 2010

Edit: It’s the penultimate day of 3-2-1. Has Tom played a blinder, or has he just made a decision he may regret? Join us tomorrow for the final prize reveals!

Alex Davis has posted up the new US Millionaire rules on Buzzerblog, but he’s also put them in a comment here so I’ll repeat that as it’s probably worth its own post:

OK, new Millionaire rules. It’s not as good as old Millionaire but it can’t be much worse than what we had to endure last season with the completely useless Expert, no one using Double Dip, bad contestants, unbelievably tough material, everyone walking away on question 7 or 8 and about one person every week or two making it to $25,000, etc.

The game is played in two rounds. The first round each question is randomly given one of ten dollar values (between $100 and $25,000) and the categories are shuffled. You won’t know what you’re playing for until you answer. That first question could be for $100 or maybe $25K. Could be the easiest, or could be the hardest. If you’re right the value of the question is added to your bank. You can walk away at any time during the first 10 questions with half your bank.

You’re given three Lifelines. Ask the Audience survives. The other two are called “Jump the Question”. If you use Jump you bypass the question but you don’t get the dollar value for it, like an Escape from 1 VS 100.

If you survive the first 10 questions you are guaranteed $25,000 and you play “Classic Millionaire” with four questions, valued at $100K, $250K, $500K, and $1M. You can walk away with your bank (or whatever dollar value you are on), but if you miss you leave with $25,000.

Again, it’s not as good as old Millionaire but it sounds interesting (I’ll be doing a set visit Thursday) and it really can’t be any worse than last season. The show got too predictable and stale, and it’s hard to change that on a daytime TV budget. They reached a point of no return, and it was either this or switch to Hot Seat. I’m glad we switched to this.

The only weird thing is getting rid of the Hot Seat. I’m not sure what that accomplishes, but there we go.”

Thanks Alex. Sounds as though it might be fun, although until I see it I’m not entirely sure how well it will all “fit”.

Board of Excitement 15th – 21st August 2010

By | August 15, 2010

3-2-1 nears its EXCITING DENOUEMENT, this week Tom Scott finds out exactly what he has won. In the meantime you can still help him with the three final objects bought out to the table.

Otherwise this week is a bit dull, save for finding out exactly how new US Millionaire is going to work, and Fort Boyard‘s grand final next Saturday on France 2. Oh, and The X Factor‘s back next Saturday.