And You Will Know Him By The Trail Of His Future Fighting Talk Appearances

By | December 21, 2020

Seismic news, although if you read the Stool Pigeon the other day there was certainly a hint that it may have been coming.

Great to see Pointless and House of Games will Still Be Things, intrigued to see what’s going to happen to shows he’s been producing like Cats Does Countdown, Would I Lie to You? and the like.

In other news, I had no idea Bradley Walsh’s How To Win At Gameshows was on last night on ITV, we answered a few questions during the initial planning stages of the doc when they were trying to work out what it was, I hope it was useful.

Alice in Borderland

By | December 20, 2020

Something that ‘dropped’ on Netflix this last week that might be of interest to punters, Alice in Borderland, an eight episode Japanese mystery drama based on a popular manga. It’s a little bit like Cube, a little bit like 3% and little bit like Lost (the mysterious island TV show rather than the reality show). It’s also *quite* violent, it’s rated 15 but I reckon it’s on the cusp of an 18 really.

Loser Arisu and his loser friends are larking about and hide from the police in a toilet stall. Suddenly all the lights go out, and when they come back they discover that (almost) everyone in Shibuya has suddenly disappeared, the streets are deserted, all they see is a screen light up telling them in which direction the Game Arena is located. Without spoiling too much, everyone in this world is forced to play cruel and unusual games – winning a game earns days on a “visa” where they don’t have to play, but not playing means laser death from above and losing games mean death by other means. What are they prepared to do to stay alive, and how will this affect them? And what IS going on?

Some of the games have entertaining Mole-like elements, but none of the “a-ha!” moments are as strong as something in Liar Game, for example (please buy up Liar Game Netflix, thanks). Still if you, like me, are a fan of This Sort Of Thing and you have the stomach for some exploding bodies then it’s well worth a watch.

I need to get round to watching the second series of Kakegurui at some point as well, which is something else you might enjoy.

Bother’s Bar Schlag den Star Watchalong 19/12/2020

By | December 19, 2020

Saturday, 7:15pm (UK) 8:15 (CET),
Pro Sieben and naughty internet streaming

Yo, what are you doing this evening? Not much these days I bet! So why not join us as two celebs battle it out for €100,000 in an empty studio across fifteen mystery games, one of which will be Blamieren oder Kassieren, live on German television?

As ever we will have our Discord open for live chat and quizzing and gossip and stuff. Remember it’s a privilege not a right so behave yourselves. To avoid cutting out, we advise turning Auto-sensitivity off and setting it to -85dB or so in your settings.

THIS EPISODE! It’s Sonja Zietlow vs Jurgen Milski! With musical support from Bosses and Sarah Connor!

The link to the Youtube commentary stream will be live here from 7:15pm until end of broadcast.

This stream is commentary only. You will need to have a naughty stream running at the same time for the visuals. We are likely to be about 15-20 seconds behind the visual stream (and about a full minute behind if you’re watching an actual satellite feed), sorry.

The Opera VPN has apparently stopped being useful for SdS. Bother’s Bar recommends shelling out for a proper VPN service. Bother’s Bar uses ExpressVPN, other VPN services are available. Matt Clemson recommends Windscribe as a free alternative. We cannot take responsibility for anything you do to your system, so be careful and use some common sense.

To watch it would be useful to sign up for ProSieben’s catch-up service – it’s pretty simple to work out, don’t click the box if you don’t want e-mail messages. You will need to put in a proper e-mail because it will send you a confirmation. 

If anyone knows of any relatively safe livestreams, do feel free to share.

The Taskmaster S11 line-up

By | December 18, 2020

After so many people confidently predicted they wouldn’t release the Taskmaster S11 line-up after the finale last night, they released the Taskmaster S11 line-up after the finale last night.

Off the top of my head, really excited Lee Mack’s doing it, even if he’s crap at the tasks he ought to be good at the studio chat. Most of the others are a bit of a mystery – Jamali Maddix’s beard has been an up and coming Dave Celebrity for a little while and is likable enough. Mike Wozniak did a podcast called Mr Gameshow with Diane Morgan a few years ago which was quite amusing, it’s been pointed out to me that he also plays a character on Greg Davies sitcom Man Down. I’m afraid I had to look up the women – Charlotte Ritchie is an actress and singer-songwriter who was in Fresh Meat and Call the Midwife, Sarah Kendall is an Australian comic. So there we are. Edit: Thanks Steve in the comments, Wozniak won the original Edinburgh Taskmaster over ten years ago.

There’s a Champion of Champions happening as well with the winners of series 6-10 being invited back. It almost feels like Too Much Taskmaster, even if it’s no different schedule wise to being on Dave really (except the New Year thing).

Things to do this weekend

By | December 17, 2020

As Depeche Mode once sang, “is there something to do?” Well yes Dave, this weekend there is.

  • This Saturday it’s the final Schlag den Star of the year, Sonia Zietlow vs last-minute stand-in Jürgen Milski. We will have our usual Watchalong from 7:15 UK.
  • Voting is still open for the Bother’s Bar Game Night Award Ceremony Special! Lines will close early in the New Year.
  • And speaking of award ceremonies, it’s just over two weeks until Poll of the Year. Is there anything missing on the UKGameshows list that ought to be there?
  • Finally, hot on the heels of that Noel’s House Party compilation thing, the Youtube Channel fortboyard1990de will be launching a three hour fan made documentary based on the German 1990 Fort Boyard series, which I’ve got a big soft spot for, featuring interviews with cast and crew, and the whole thing is produced by Daniel Logemann who of course you all recognise from German industrial band Massiv in Mensch. That will go out on Sunday at 7pm GMT (8pm GMT), 30 years to the minute of the first episode going out. Edit: here’s a direct link.

Stool Pigeon Christmas 2020 – The Results

By | December 15, 2020

Ding dong merrily on high, in heaven the GOSSIP is ringing!

You’ve spent the day sending me your anonymous industry goss, let’s see what you’ve sent. As usual, I’m only printing stuff which I *suspect* has an element of truth to it but there is no guarantee that what is printed is fact, that’s just between the person who wrote it and the people involved. Diving in, then:

  • New game show filmed a pilot in MediaCity in October with a terrible title – “I cheated on a game show!“. Eight players split into two groups by a nearest-to question, fastest correct four are allowed to cheat on the next five questions. Everyone else has to try and sniff out cheaters to replace them in the cheat zone, then head-to-heads where you can cheat, then an endgame where the one remaining player competes against the three they beat to take home £30k. Hosted by Claudia Winkleman and Suzi Ruffell is the assistant who knows who cheated. Meant to fill an hour timeslot, so I suspect it’ll be VERY slow. Probably only 20-25 questions in the entire show on average.

Intrigued to find out how the contestants are able to cheat, they get fed the answers presumably. Anyway, this sounds a bit confused.

  • Only connect is moving to a new day in 2021 – instead of Mondays it will be on Thursdays at 8.

This feels a bit attention seeky, but I print it in case it’s true, especially as the BBC has form with bumping OC around the schedule.

  • ITV’s Starstruck has been reported as a reboot of Stars In Their Eyes. Technically it isn’t, despite coming from the same production group as the Harry Hill version. But it is. They’ve added some more direct competitive elements and a judging panel, but it’s punters transforming into tribute acts of their favourite artists. However, if you make the comparison in front of the MD of the production company, he gets very irate…

This remains absolutely hilarious.

  • Worrying times for fans of any game shows produced by Banijay or (what was) EndemolShine. The takeover is becoming a bloodbath, with many of the most experienced and senior talent being culled in the quest to save millions in overheads.

Great timing for Richard Osman to release a best-selling book, really.

  • Finally have something to contribute, although not that exciting all things considered and maybe a bit “Digital Spy” but who cares Was speaking to someone who knows Prince of The Castle Jordan North and they said that he only agreed to go in very last minute having been asked earlier in the summer then turned down. Jordan then revealed this on Radio 1 last week – but what he didn’t reveal (Obviously) was that someone didn’t drop out, someone was basically chucked out. During the promo shoot a few weeks before this person was apparently so vile and hard to work with that they got told they were off the show – which matches up with the more nicey nicey vibe they’ve had in camp this year (and recent years). Would obviously be more interesting if I knew who this was, and I’ve not found a name yet despite the line up being hardly a secret when the promo shoots are going on. Oh well. Back to having nothing interesting to say next time.

It was Naughty Boy, wasn’t it?

  • “The year is 2026. Britain has ceased to be a constitutional monarchy and has been converted into one big game show. The royal family have been taken captive… Can you and your team rescue them?” Well, if that’s the alternative, would you want to? Play Kinect-style video games projected onto really large screens at Electric Gamebox in London, Manchester and at Lakeside, at least once lockdown reopens. Looks like a great toy, even if not a great game. Sixty minutes, £34. (Discounts off-peak and for kids.)”

I’ll take my 10%, thanks.

  • The Taskmaster S11 line-up WON’T be announced after Thursday’s final, it will be after the new years celeb special instead.


  • The Amazing Race Australia not only managed to film a season domestically during the lockdown, it’s also apparently going to be the longest race ever. Which pretty much means the host has 50% more chance in which to say something casually racist as his previous history would suggest is likely.
  • The whole ‘Banksy is actually Neil Buchanan from Art Attack‘ thing that was doing the rounds a while back was a joke on David Mitchell’s fake-news-before-it-was-called-that themed panel show The Bubble back in 2010. See 25 and a half minutes into this.
  • I just wanted to say someone should get the rights for Blather Round to make that a gameshow. It’s too good to pass up.
  • Does The Crystal Maze have adjudicators? I was looking on a fansite showing all the revival episode stats and somehow a celebrity team with only ten seconds in the dome got more tokens than nearly every other team. Just seems odd to me.
  • The most recent episode of Fingers on Buzzers featured Jenny and Lucy playing old quiz board games and then musing over starting a Twitch channel in which they did just that. If only they had been alerted to the possibility of game shows over Twitch just a few episodes ago, eh?

From the “I don’t think this is true” department, but quite funny:

  • Wayne Sleep did a vom when on The Wheel because of the spinning.

You’d think a dancer would be able to deal with spinning though, surely.


A couple of things have come to light since this post went live.

  • It sounds like I Cheated On A Gameshow! is true and for C4, I’ve had independent verification, and thanks to John R for reminding us he went to see a pilot called Cheat! six whole years ago. It still sounds a bit confused and awful, and just feels like the latest “quiz but one of them is cheating” formats every production company seems to have but doesn’t tend to work. They’re even trying it with Craig Ferguson in the US next month with The Hustler.
  • We get quite a lot of ‘banal’ gossip come through, X is getting a Celebrity Special, that’s not really hot gossip just how television tends to work. However sometimes something comes along that manages to be both so box ticking and banal that it feels like a joke. Ladies and gentlemen, I read this and dismissed it but it turns out it’s an actual thing that’s happened:

Channel 4 is piloting a dating show hosted by Tom Allen, my understanding is the show ends with a prisoner’s dilemma.