Show Discussion: The Bank Job series 2

By | February 16, 2012

Week 1:
9pm Friday, Channel 4
9:10pm Saturday, Channel 4

Lamby is BACK! with a second series of The Bank Job on Friday and Saturday nights over the next five weeks.

The lazy Prisoner’s Dilemma end-of-tournament game has disappeared and now it’s winner stays on, and they could win hundreds of thousands of pounds.

We chat about series one here, needless to say if they take some of my ideas on board I will be billing Endemol appropriately for doing their bloody job for them. I’m basically happy to see it back, but also hope it’s better this time round.

Unfortunately being in the target demographic (i.e. young and cool) I’m going to be out for both of the opening episodes, but I will be recording them. I look forward to reading your comments.

89 thoughts on “Show Discussion: The Bank Job series 2

  1. Andy "Kesh" Sullivan

    It’ll be interesting to see if all the kinks are ironed out for Season 2. If they are and we like it, could this be the very first show that gets a Hall of Shame vote for its first season and a Hall of Fame vote for its second?

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    1. Andy "Kesh" Sullivan

      Ummm, forget that, I guess. I think this show will still be on many of peoples’ Shame lists. My pet peeves with this show are:

      1 – Not enough time for the 4-player round to get exciting, so what was the point in DROPPING the amount of time in the round to 1:15? On both shows, it seemed to go with 2 people with only 1 bundle each and 2 on £0. What I would have done is have a 2 minute clock for Round 1 to at least give all 4 players a chance to get some questions right and bank some cash. When I first heard of The Bank Job, I pictured it with 4 people sat around a table with computer screens in front of them, buttons for multiple-choice questions that flash up on the screen and whoever gets it right quickest getting to go over and open a safety deposit box, kinda like that round in Swap Team where the kids had to solve short anagrams on a computer to get the Swapits.

      2 – George’s questions sometimes taking FAR too long to ask, which eats up time. Take Friday night’s question that went “If J-Lo is Jennifer Lopez and SuBo is Susan Boyle, which American celebrity is known as LiLo?”. That question drained 8 seconds off Laura’s clock which would put her at a disadvantage. In a game where time is of the essence to cram as many questions as you can into 45 seconds, you really need shorter, snappier questions. On the online game, if you’re quick enough, each question takes about 4 seconds to answer, meaning you can have a maximum of 11 questions. On the actual show, you could theoretically get more questions if you interrupt right.

      3 – The obvious one. 4 minutes and 15 seconds (or even less should someone leave early in the final round) of quizzing that takes a whole hour to get through. Not good enough. This show should really have been pre-recorded to allow for editing of the contestants’ umming and ahhing over whether to keep or bin £1,000 like what happened tonight with Reiss in the second round. It doesn’t need to be live.

      It’s a sound game, don’t get me wrong, its just the execution of it that bugs me. This won’t be appearing on my Hall of Fame list.

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  2. Simon

    Aren’t the Halls of Shame and Fame for new series in that year so it won’t qualify for either for the 2012 poll?

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  3. Brekkie

    Returning a couple of months too quickly for my liking but it deserved a second chance. Didn’t know it was switching to a Winner Stays On format so be interesting to see how that works – and whether they risk losing their winnings by staying on.

    P.S. Any news on who is involved in the My Man Can pilot being filmed tonight?

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  4. Travis P

    This series will be a massive challenge for the show. To recap the first series. Not one show managed to get inside Channel 4’s top 30 in the first week of January. That meant every show rated less than 1.5 million. Also with the finale on Saturday it got beaten by the four major channels. Even losing out to a repeat of Fawlty Towers. Unlike Million Pound Drop does enough to get inside the elusive top 30 shows. The sister show will need to do something to get the viewers watching.

    How long till they do The Celebrity Bank Job? Offer the winner the spoils with the three losers walking away with £5,000 each as consolation for their charities.

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  5. Daniel Peake

    I’m not convinced about the Bankrupt box yet, I’d prefer to see it be used to bankrupt someone else, rather than make you be bankrupt.

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    1. Lewis

      I imagine it’s there to discourage people from hanging around too long – on the third or fourth episode of the first series I think every round ended in sudden death where nobody wanted to leave.

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  6. Greg

    Already ipad troubles, why can’t they just put the questions up on the 2 screens at the back.

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  7. Alex

    I THINK there’s a list of cash values on the wall between the 25 boxes and the trash bin.

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  8. Daniel Peake

    I’m disappointed with this series – just feel like it hasn’t improved and the lack of online play-a-long game is now a shame – I quite liked it.

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  9. Brekkie

    None of the changes were for the better really. Nobody here suggested knocking 15 seconds of question time off Round 1 and I think axing the requirement to find two bundles in Round 2 is a mistake. The Bankrupt thing is OK, but not sure it should be in every round.

    What it really misses though is the winning moment at the end – the nature of the show means it focuses on the loser rather than winner. It could really do with a final round of the Winner vs The Vault, trying to get as much money as possible and get out – if they fail to get out they get nothing.

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  10. Mark L

    i think the defending champion will have a big advantage tomorrow: already won big, some familarity with the rounds and the set, plus he was very quick on the current affairs type questions. Round one is a lottery but if he can get through that… however this is not a show i will be going out of my way to see 🙂

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  11. The Banker's Nephew

    It looks like they’ve smoothed out the production for the most part. The set looks a lot better than it did last season, and the contestant podiums look a lot fancier.

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  12. John R

    I’m still trying to work out why they decided to move the contestant podiums. Especially with the new screen by the cash wall.

    Also according to someone on Digital Spy there will be some form of Champion Of Champions at the end of the series with the stupid Prisoner Dilema twist!

    “It wasn’t mentioned in the show, but George Lamb mentioned it on Richard Bacon’s radio show the other day (see post #4 of this thread). They do get to take home their winnings on the night (and from any subsequent nights they win), but the best 5 players across the series also come back for a big finale similar to the finale of the first series, with the dramatic split-or-steal climax. Although I suppose it’ll be less dramatic if they’ve already won money they get to keep from previous shows.”

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    1. Brekkie

      Well it’s only a 10 episode run so assuming some contestants win at least twice there won’t be much of a top 5 to choose from. IMO it should be one or the other.

      And agree about the podiums – didn’t like the layout at all last night and made the vault feel very small. That screen seemed pointless too.

      P.S. The Sun reporting that Melanie Sykes and TOWIEs Mark Wright are hosting My Man Can.

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      1. Travis P

        That’ll flop since Mark Wright is like Dermot O’Leary that not everybody likes him. Would’ve given the job to Vernon Kay.

        One of the reasons The Cube has been on this long because they played safe by employing Phillip Schofield. They should do the same with My Man Can and choose someone with experience.

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        1. Score

          Not everyone likes Vernon Kay either though! In fairness he’d have been a decent choice, but they probably want a male/female pairing so if it goes to series I’d keep Mark Wright and play it safe with someone like Holly Willoughby instead of Melanie Sykes.

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  13. Travis P

    Last night’s show had 1.1 million.

    Doesn’t look good for next Friday as repeats of New Tricks return with the new series of Benidorm.

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  14. Weaver

    Second premiere night review.
    * Useless Bloke’s spiel at the beginning had better be a one-time affair.
    * Approval for the contestant introductions walking up the bank steps.
    * Steals in early rounds is OK; Bankrupts has me wondering if UB thinks he’s presenting Wheel of Fortune.
    * Unimpressed by shaving 15 seconds off round one – if there’s a round to shorten, make it round two.
    * Someone get UB an idiot board.
    * Good to see more angles and camerawork.
    * There’s still no reason why this should be live.
    * Have they changed the theme music?

    In short: this still isn’t anywhere near appointment to view, and I have enough of a life to make 9pm Friday exist only on catch-up.

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    1. Brekkie

      The theme is the same. Actually disagree over the intros – hope they return to introducing them in the titles tonight. Also in a show where what is now a 4 minute 15 second game is padded out to an hour I think ditching the profiles of the top three is a mistake. Yes, it might be filler – but the show needs filler.

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  15. tabstop

    I don’t think I can think of another show where the host wanders around while reading the question. Also seems very awkward for him to be behind the contestants — nothing like a question being read out from directly behind you to bring back bad school memories.

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    1. Lewis

      This bugged the hell out of me! At points, George is facing away from one or more contestants, making it harder for them to hear the question. I’m not sure what the acoustics are like in the vault itself, but I imagine they’re not much different from the bank hall as a whole, which has terrible echo-ey acoustics. Stop wandering and just face the contestants please!

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    2. Weaver

      Off the top of my head, the only host I can recall who was able to walk and talk was Penny Smith from Krypton Factor ’95. Anne Robinson seems able to turn through 180 degrees while asking a question on The Weakest Link, but that’s not the same thing.

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    3. Dan Peake

      Nick Hancock could walk around the set of Duel after reading out the question initially – but that’s not the same thing.

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  16. Lewis

    The game’s twitter account really needs somebody competent running it. Repeatedly last month, and again tonight, it’s been giving out incorrect times for show starts, deleting the tweet and tweeting again with the correct time. This is pretty unacceptable in my opinion.

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  17. David

    They fixed some of the problems, but added a couple of others….but that last round on Saturday’s show was pretty intense.

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  18. Brig Bother Post author

    Alright, I posted this drunkenly on Twitter last night having watched ep 1 earlier in the evening. Have just watched episode 2 now, have included new notes in square brackets:

    I don’t know what happened on The Bank Job this evening, but I did see episode one after work today. Here are some drunken tips:

    1) “Do you want to get more or do you want to get out?” That is your catchphrase gold right there.

    2) The bankrupt does not in fact add anything to proceedings, except annoyance. [I may have judged this a bit too soon based on episode two, but I still think, similarly to series one, adding double and now triple jeopardy to the proceedings needlessly punishes players who have to play catch-up and find that half the boxes are no good to them. I think I would still prefer the “steal” to be more of a wildcard and allow a repick if they don’t fancy someone else’s bundle or if there is nobody to steal from. If they then go on to pick a £0 then that is the game.]

    3) Having the previous round totals crop up in the final is quite clever, you can keep that.

    4) Well done on having the vault door behind the contestants. Unfortunately you’ve still not made anything of it. The round is in play, the vault door is open. The clock runs out, the vault door slams shut. In the biz we call this basic narrative, it helps make it easier for the viewer to grasp. [The new angle actually brings quite an interesting claustrophobic feel to the proceedings, but I think it would probably be better if they shifted everything in the vault round through 90 degrees from S1]

    5) Towards the end of the last series I picked up on the fact you could work out your odds by working out the box average. This is now denied to the viewers [although I note the contestants can still see how much is left in the vault]. Sort it out.

    6) It would still be better if you hid the clock when there was twenty seconds left. Letting the contestants answer questions after the clock has run out is thematically very silly.

    7) Picking young contestants doesn’t bother me. Picking contestants on the basis that they have a wacky haircut does.

    I am not convinced removing 15 seconds from round one adds anything. Er that’s it. I don’t mind the show, I just don’t love it.

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    1. Brig Bother Post author

      Actually yes, another thing – the questions seem rather longer this time round, coming in at 6-7 seconds each. Is this a deleberate design decision?

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      1. Andy "Kesh" Sullivan

        If you see my post at the top of the page, I made a comment about the question length, like the Lindsay Lohan question on Friday’s show.

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  19. Brekkie

    Talking of time never understood why Million Pound Drop has the time on air to the hundreth of the second, but here I think they’re needed, especially when they keep resetting the clock after being indecisive over whether an answer is correct or not.

    Having 4.51 seconds on the clock is quite different to 5.49 seconds in this game.

    Agree largely with you Brig (but heck, who doesn’t?). There is still a good format in there trying to get out, but they seem to have hidden it a bit further away this series IMO.

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  20. Mart with a Y not a I

    The Bank Job – The proper series years..

    In a circus, it is traditional for the clown to wear silly and brightly coloured trousers. Last night George was wearing red trousers. Just sayin..

    Seems like everyone here as already said what I was going to tap out. There is a good, really good format here, but it’s been gagged and tied to a chair and struggling to break free – and Endemol don’t seem to want to go in and cut the ropes.

    It’s like (‘scuse the Top Gear analogy here) a fantastic high powered performance car. It’s sleek, good to look at, enjoyable to listen to when revving up, but needs good high grade engine oil to make all the parts work at the same time.
    If TBJ is that car, then the production team have poured cheap vegetable oil in it, on the basis that because it says ‘oil’ on the tin it does the same job. End result. Start it up and the racket makes you know something is very badly wrong.

    Things I like.
    * The new camera angles from the one on the top step, and the one in the vault door.
    * Shooting the contestant podiums from each side of the game board (a la DOND) That makes much more sense, as you have the door as the backdrop, rather than a empty space (with a broken clock) and some lights to break up the gloom. Plus you can get the steadycam to provide more dynamic shots, having a 180 degree podium to vault board same shot pan.

    Things I don’t like.
    * 15 seconds off the 1st round. I assume they spun back the tapes of the week long version, and to try and get off air in the allotted time, loosing that amount of gameplay, which balances it out with the faffing around choosing which vault to open makes it equal out.
    * George wandering around with his Ipad/Tablet. It made it look at times like it was a non-broadcast pilot.
    * George using the word “Guys” as a verbal full stop punctuation mark, guys
    * The lack of a ‘hit em and hurt em’ end game.

    I know I hated the prisoner dilemma more than the next poster on this thread – but I have to grudgingly accept it did provide a full stop to the series. I know it’s probably going to come back in 4 weeks time, but the regular editions need something.
    Therefore, what it needs is a “Winner – you can take the money now, or, come back on the next show and try for more, but…” device.
    If the winner decides to come back then the only way they can take all the money out that they have won so far, is to it WIN the next show outright. Coming back but going out in any of the three rounds carries a penalty.
    Out in the 1st round – 1% of the total won so far
    Out in the 2nd round – 10% of the total won so far
    Out in the final round – 25% of the total won so far

    Or have some of said a winner vs the Vault round.
    Here’s one then – Total up each amount won across the rounds for a target to aim for.
    The finalist has 1 minutes to take out that sum – or more – to win it. The values in the vaults are the bundles they took out during the show along with any zeros found, and steals are converted into bankrupts. Any vaults left would be filled with low value sums starting at £100 and going up by 100 quid until all 25 are filled.
    That would mean two incorrect answers (or flouncing around thinking) would be punished as they know the target is in the vaults, and would provide a nice fitting and tense end to each show.

    Also – what has happened to the ticker of useless ‘information’ over the last break? – and – I really thought Channel 4 sales would have found a sponsor for the series, that was one of the reasons I assumed it was coming back so quickly…

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    1. Clifton Hone

      Or you could do what they originally did on “TIC TAC DOUGH”. You can stop and take your money, but if you lose on the next show, the new winner’s money is taken out of what you won. (This is pretty good considering that I’ve never seen the actual show. Living in the U.S. does that.)

      Clif

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  21. Poochy.EXE

    I saw some of the first episode – by which I mean I skipped ahead a couple seconds after each question knowing there was a lot of idle chatter coming up. (Did the same with the episodes I watched of the last series, too.) My thoughts:

    1. Still way too slow-paced. I think the show could easily fit in a half-hour if it weren’t live and they had time to edit out all the production kinks and idle moments.

    2. The Steal mechanic is rather awkward – you want it when there’s someone to steal from, you want to avoid it when there isn’t. I love Brig’s idea of giving contestants the option to discard a Steal and pick again.

    3. I don’t think the Bankrupt adds anything to the game at all. It just lowers the expected payout per episode.

    4. The 0’s are also a tiny bit awkward, because they’re a special case. If it were up to me, I’d replace them with a single quid. That’d also reduce the chances of a tie for last place, I imagine.

    5. Why does it seem like every Endemol show only casts loud screechy women in their 20’s and men with weird hair? It’s annoying. Part of what originally made Millionaire fun to watch was the variety of contestants. If you took a bunch of contestants from Millionaire (or The Cube, for that matter) and lined them up, they wouldn’t look too different from the check-out line at a supermarket. Endemol shows’ contestants, on the other hand, would look like they were at a California traffic court for repeated speeding tickets.

    6. I also agree with Brig in that I think it would make a lot more sense for the door to start open and then shut. Start with it wide open, then slowly close it as the clock ticks down.

    7. I think there needs to be some sort of solo endgame/bonus round for the winner. The game just feels somewhat incomplete the way it is now.

    8. The fact that some questions were much longer than others bugged me too. I think one way to remedy this is to simply put up a screen which displays the full question at once, but still allow contestants to interrupt as Lamb reads it out.

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  22. Brekkie

    One minor thing but I wish they’d reveal the location of all the cash at the end of each round.

    They also need to tweak the Steals for sure – have fewer, if any in the first round (though IMO it does make more sense in Round 1 than Round 3) – and perhaps have people take their cash through into the next round so people getting a steal early on can steal from that. I’d also like the money binned to come into play at some point.

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    1. John R

      A few years ago they would have probably had a premium rate call and lose viewer competition with the ‘binned’ money as the prize!

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  23. Mart with a Y not an I

    Here’s a thing.
    Just grazing the applausestore website during lunch, and noticed they are wanting audiences to turn up at ‘the top secret location meeting place’ (Which is The Mercer Bar – which is just a short walk to the top secret location of the vault which is in the lobby of the former HQ of the Midland Bank at 5.30pm for one of this Saturdays show.

    5.30? Does that mean Saturdays show is being taped and turned around before airing 9pm (which it’s billed at in the Radio Times)

    Hope so – that way you tidy up the pace of the show. Smooth out Lambies rough bits and generally improve it (a bit)

    In other ticket news (for studio anoraks like myself) The Voice Uk is going to come from Fountain Studios, rather than TC1 in ‘ol Wood Lane, W12.

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      1. sphil

        but less surprising considering at one stage the plan was to have sold bbc television centre by 2011. dont know where this plan is in its progress, or if a buyer is lined up, but i’d expect less to be filmed here over the next few years.

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    1. Lewis

      No I think it was just George that fucked up. The camera guys managed to focus on the right guy, and Collette (who he addressed incorrectly) said she didn’t know the answer so it’s unlikely she buzzed.

      This just illustrates why this shouldn’t be live, and George shouldn’t be hosting.

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      1. Brig Bother Post author

        I *sort of* feel sorry for George in that situation, because the person who buzzes comes up on his pad and if you’re wandering around it would be pretty easy to miss the score displays flashing.

        I think Leighton has the right to feel a *little* aggreved given the outcome of the round.

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    1. Lewis

      Yeah, I’m beginning to wonder if they pick contestants for thickness as well as age and ridiculous hair.

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      1. Lewis

        I’m going to take this back after that final. Both contestants there seemed pretty on the ball.

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  24. Alex

    Also if you bring forward a zero from an earlier round (by sudden death), that box has “£ 0,000” on it. WHY couldn’t they do £0 like normal!?

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    1. Lewis

      It looks like the brought forward boxes have custom plates, they seem a bit more bronze than the others. Possibly to deliberately differentiate them from the regular boxes, since there’s bound to be printed £10k plates they could have used rather than the one we also saw tonight.

      Close final tonight, two well matched and decent players both doing well in the first half. The poor run of luck for Reiss starting with that bankrupt was all that decided it.

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  25. Brig Bother Post author

    I think Round One, given that it is more fun when people actually accumulate money, would be better if they left the question open for a second contestant to buzz just to get more right answers on the board.

    Bankrupt ruined what could have been a very exciting final last night, really.

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  26. Brig Bother Post author

    And the show needs a bit more levity. That’s one of the qualities Davina brings to MPD.

    Aaaagh, I wish I was producing this. I’m so pulling for this show to be much better than it actually is.

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  27. John R

    I cringed when George had to get them to reset the clock and bin a question because there was a ‘weird name’ in it.

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    1. Brig Bother Post author

      Again, in fairness to George (although goodness why), it sounds like the setters didn’t bother with a pronunciation guide that quizmasters these days tend to get on their cards and screens if there’s a difficult word coming up in the next question. It was a bit short sighted if not.

      To be honest, whilst I can name a ton of hosts I’d rather see doing this than George Lamb, I think he does a reasonable job under the circumstances, especially given the production team seems to lumber him with quite a lot of mild live tv peril.

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      1. David B

        At least he (or the voice down his ear) had the good sense to realise that a fluff with 11 seconds left would’ve been a game changer and called a halt to proceedings before it got difficult.

        Live game shows are always fraught with difficulty as there’s so many things that could go wrong, but they’re not doing themselves any favours by (e.g.) not putting names on the podia, not putting George in a position where he can see them, relying on gadgetry for the questions etc.

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  28. Travis P

    Remember when I said they’ll probably do celebrity specials to boost ratings?

    Yep, it’s going to happen. They’re going to cut short the regular run by two shows. Meaning the champions final will be next Saturday, 10th March.

    The blurb from Digiguide.
    “Now, the best of the best return to play for even more money. But there’s one big twist still to come as the cash they win across the show is split, leaving the final two players with a monumental decision to either share the spoils or trick their opponent into giving them the lot. Will our final two share a fortune or will greed prove their downfall? Two special celebrity editions of The Bank Job follow, beginning on Friday at 9.00pm.”

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    1. David Howell

      Sounds like the Prisoner’s Dilemma will at least be restricted to the winnings from that final episode.

      Over/under on the number of “celebrity” contestants from constructed-reality shows like TOWIE out of two episodes: 3.5.

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      1. Lewis

        I’d put good money on at least two Made in Chelsea “stars” showing up. It’s an E4 show, and the cast are (to my knowledge) in the exact demographic they’re looking for: young, attractive, and incredibly dumb.

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    2. Brig Bother Post author

      In fairness, I’m not convinced ‘do a celebrity special’ is a particularly surprising turn of events.

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  29. John R

    Is that the first time a game show host has used strong language (in the context of a question)?

    Ironically in the same sort of slot as Davina ‘You are live on Channel 4 please do not swear’ McCall occupies…

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    1. Alex

      I remember a question on Tout le monde… ages ago that was about some Al Pacino film that used the phrase “You fuck my wife?”

      Then again it seems that on the continent they don’t particularly mind English swearing, even though they know what it means.

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    2. Tim

      The noticeable obsession with there having to be at least one deliberately loaded risqué question in each episode to keep the “key demo” happy is frankly pathetic.

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      1. Alex

        Simple things please simple minds. This appears to be directed at (and by!) the same demographic that thinks that “mature comedy” is toilet humour and jokes about bodily functions.

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        1. David Howell

          Who are exactly the people who go out on Friday and Saturday nights.

          An amusing comment on TV By The Numbers yesterday suggested that “Friday night is nerd night”, because a lot of the people in the 18-49 demo who don’t go out on Friday night are nerds (he spoke self-depreciatingly as one of them), and hence quite a few sci-fi shows air on Fridays.

          Perhaps this explains why MPD (a hard quiz) is doing so much better in the same timeslot than The Bank Job (which isn’t)?

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  30. The Banker's Nephew

    Okay… The image occasionally going black and white is part of the show right? Not just my screen messing up?

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  31. Brig Bother Post author

    1.4m last night for this, apparently, which is good work considering.

    I just wish it wasn’t so interminable. I wish it was speedier. I wish it felt less one note. I just wish it was better, really.

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    1. Alex Davis

      Dumb question, then. Do you think the show, with a few changes, would work better as a speedier, maybe more intelligent, daytime quizzer? I’ve got no idea. Just curious.

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      1. Brig Bother Post author

        There’s no reason it shouldn’t work in primetime with a bit more thought. The problem isn’t intelligence, it’s direction.

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  32. Brekkie

    So yet another flaw in the Bank Job – tonight’s final is supposed to have the five best players from the series, but they’ve only had four winners thanks to Scott winning 4 of the 7 shows, and not sure how they’d work out the best runner up.

    This potential had so much potential but seems to have found problems at every turn. It deserved a second shot but I hope it doesn’t get a third – and C4 get serious about restoring comedy to Friday nights. They seemed shocked this week when they announced they were pulling New Girl from 8.30pm because it didn’t meat their expectations – but anyone whos nobody could see that a comedy sandwiched between Come Dine with Me and MPD/Bank Job up against Corrie wasn’t going to reach it’s potential.

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  33. John R

    I can see Scott playing to lose tonight.

    If he gets through to the final there is a 99.9% of the other person choosing ‘Steal’ due to knowing how Scott already has the best part of £200k, but if he is sat outside he has a much better chance of sharing the money on a Steal/Steal inside the vault…

    Ironically the final round of last night was probably far more exciting than the final will be tonight.

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    1. David Howell

      And he’s smart enough to recognise as much, too. Which couldn’t be said for the average Bank Job player.

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      1. BigBen

        I hope he’s honest about his strategy too. I enjoy watching it, but I really do believe the Bank Job and George Lamb deserve to be openly mocked at every opportunity. He’s just not smooth enough or competent enough for live TV! And the format is deeply flawed in so many ways…

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  34. Brekkie

    I really don’t think the money won so far will be the stakes. Indeed I doubt they’ve worked out themselves yet what they’re going to do – I’m guessing they might double the usual prize fund and play it like that.

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    1. David Howell

      You’re right to have that suspicion – the producers confirmed over Facebook yesterday, in answer to my question on this, that the money won so far is safe. Thank goodness.

      There was one photo on their FB page which had fake newspaper prints with “£250,000” noted twice. I think the PD pot starts at £250k, and is possibly supplemented by money carried over in some way from tonight’s game.

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      1. Brig Bother Post author

        The money was always safe. This was made fairly clear.

        It will probably be all money taken through from every round, since there will be extra people in round three.

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  35. Januarygirl

    Well done to Scott I think he is the true champion
    of The Bank Job season 2
    Showing as well that he is not
    only a winner but a decent person!!

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  36. John R

    Well I won’t ruin it for anybody just yet but the PD prize pot was a rather poor £100,000.

    It also left a sour taste in my mouth. Yet the normal ‘winner takes their winnings’ format is lacking something.

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    1. Brekkie

      The two formats didn’t work side by side – especially with such a dominent winner – the outcome was pretty obvious.

      For the jackpot tonight it would have been better really to do what they did in the first final and put all the money won in each round straight into the jackpot – would have been around £200k if they’d done that.

      It’s so frustrating because ignore all the flaws (and George Lamb) and it is still a decent show and could be a decent daytime show if pre-recorded and adapted accordingly.

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      1. David Howell

        30 minutes. Three players. Round 1 works the same way as now, just with three players and 90 seconds on the clock. Round 2 is the same as the current round 3 head to head. Winner plays a solo round with 100k in the vault with 20 cash amounts, three blanks, and two bankrupts: 60 seconds to answer as many questions as possible, player can stop at any time.

        If you can get that into a half-hour slot you have a good format for US syndication.

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